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Buck 02-02-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5451029)
in the last 2 min. i'm pretty sure thats the call. you cant challenge, offensive penalty stops the game 10 second run off, i could be wrong though

There is no 10 second run off if the clock is already stopped.

EyePod 02-02-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 5451030)
Perhaps.

To me it looked like Woodley pinned the ball to the palm of Warner's hand right before it popped out. Not sure if thats defined as possession or not.

Either way, on this topic, what are the chances that Arizona completes a 60 yard Hail Mary anyways...

The biggest one was the Roughing the Passer call.

That call was BS. And the chances for Arizona completing the Hail Mary are better than any other team in the NFL.

SAUTO 02-02-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 5451042)
There is no 10 second run off if the clock is already stopped.

oh yeah there was a change of possesion.

DaFace 02-02-2009 12:40 PM

Oh, and I wish they would have reviewed the fumble/interception, but I think the call was right after reviewing it myself.

melbar 02-02-2009 12:40 PM

How bout the Steeler celebration in the endzone using the Ball as a prop? isnt that a 15 yrd penalty?

BigCatDaddy 02-02-2009 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 5451029)
in the last 2 min. i'm pretty sure thats the call. you cant challenge, offensive penalty stops the game 10 second run off, i could be wrong though

I know you can't challenge in the last 2 minutes, but I would play dumb or something. I'm sure Gun or Herm could pull that off pretty well. That might be enough time to draw attention to it and get them to review the play. If the Steelers recoverd the ball then tech you aren't on offense when you do it, but if it's over turned they you are. That's a tough one.

EyePod 02-02-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 5451041)
Wow, if you don't think it was holding you need to take the homer glasses off dude

I was saying that it was holding!

Originally Posted by EyePod http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/image...s/viewpost.gif
He grabbed onto the defender and fell backwards. If that's not holding, then I don't know what is. I think he could easily see the guy on the ground, bear-hugging the defender.

EyePod 02-02-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar (Post 5451058)
How bout the Steeler celebration in the endzone using the Ball as a prop? isnt that a 15 yrd penalty?

Yes. It totally should have been. Again, another missed call.

BigCatDaddy 02-02-2009 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5451062)
I was saying that it was holding!

Originally Posted by EyePod http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/image...s/viewpost.gif
He grabbed onto the defender and fell backwards. If that's not holding, then I don't know what is. I think he could easily see the guy on the ground, bear-hugging the defender.

I know. It was directed at the homer. Sorry about the confusion.

eazyb81 02-02-2009 12:44 PM

Ignoring the bad fumble call on Warner on the last play of the game for the time being.....

1. According to the rule book, the celebration Santonio Holmes did after scoring the last TD was excessive celebration, and should have been a 15 yard penalty on the kick off. I realize people think it is a dumb rule, but you can't just let it slide when he CLEARLY used the ball as a prop in his celebration. It's been called all year - don't ignore it now.

2. On the Warner incomplete/fumble, a Pittsburgh player (I think Lamarr Woodley) took his helmet off to celebrate before the play had been whistled dead. Again, that is a 15 year penalty according to the rule book, and as Chiefs fans we have seen it called at the end of a game (Dwayne Rudd).

That is 30 extra yards Arizona should have had on the last drive of the game according to the NFL rule book.

With those 30 yards, they would have had a much better shot of getting a last second TD to win the game.

melbar 02-02-2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5451066)
Yes. It totally should have been. Again, another missed call.

And thats 15 yards for the last drive with 1min. left in the game.

OnTheWarpath15 02-02-2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5451009)
He grabbed onto the defender and fell backwards. If that's not holding, then I don't know what is. I think he could easily see the guy on the ground, bear-hugging the defender.

You're missing the point. It WAS holding, but shy of the Umpire having X-Ray vision, he couldn't have seen it - only assumed it.

From the umpire vantage point, there is no physical way he could have seen the lineman's hands. From his angle, it looked like the DLman just bowled over the OLman.

He didn't have him in a bear hug, he had a hold of the front of his jersey and pulled him down towards him - AWAY from the Umpire.

I'm not even saying it was a bad call, just that the Umpire wasn't in position to make it without assuming - especially when the Referee has the perfect vantage point for the call and DOESN'T throw a flag.

EyePod 02-02-2009 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 5451083)
I know. It was directed at the homer. Sorry about the confusion.

hahaha, I thought you were yelling at me. My bad!

Thig Lyfe 02-02-2009 12:46 PM

Officiating affects every game. The Cardinals got ****ed a few times early on, but they also did a lot of it to themselves, and they were able to overcome it to come back at the end. Everything evened out, and it ultimately came down to the Steelers offense making the plays it needed to make in the clutch.

Super Bowl XL, it was not.

EyePod 02-02-2009 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5451084)
Ignoring the bad fumble call on Warner on the last play of the game for the time being.....

1. According to the rule book, the celebration Santonio Holmes did after scoring the last TD was excessive celebration, and should have been a 15 yard penalty on the kick off. I realize people think it is a dumb rule, but you can't just let it slide when he CLEARLY used the ball as a prop in his celebration. It's been called all year - don't ignore it now.

2. On the Warner incomplete/fumble, a Pittsburgh player (I think Lamarr Woodley) took his helmet off to celebrate before the play had been whistled dead. Again, that is a 15 year penalty according to the rule book, and as Chiefs fans we have seen it called at the end of a game (Dwayne Rudd).

That is 30 extra yards Arizona should have had on the last drive of the game according to the NFL rule book.

With those 30 yards, they would have had a much better shot of getting a last second TD to win the game.

I thought the Woodley penalty was called, but it was adden on after the play (where Pittsburgh got the ball). Now if they didn't... THAT would have been something!

per NFL:

PENALTY on PIT-56-L.Woodley, Unsportsmanlike Conduct, 14 yards, enforced at PIT 43.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playby...08&week=POST21


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