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Skip Towne 02-07-2009 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5466912)
Who is Michael Ash and why should anyone care about his opinion?
He's one of Claythan's WPI brothers.

bluehawkdoc 02-07-2009 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5466912)
Who is Michael Ash and why should anyone care about his opinion?

Nick's trouser mouse.

whoman69 02-07-2009 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5466418)
No body wanted him besides Bill Parcells last year. Also theres plenty of coaches who weren't ever coordinatiors, and Cowher was one for what? Three years?
You name the coaches who you think were never coordinators and you're probably wrong. Almost every head coach was a coordinator at one point. Probably the only Super Bowl winning coach in the last 30 years that was not a coordinator was Jimmy Johnson.

Basileus777 02-07-2009 11:55 AM
It's not a bad article, save the WPI hate for when it is fitting. You'll have plenty of chances.

milkman 02-07-2009 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 5466941)
You name the coaches who you think were never coordinators and you're probably wrong. Almost every head coach was a coordinator at one point. Probably the only Super Bowl winning coach in the last 30 years that was not a coordinator was Jimmy Johnson.

You probably are right about the winning SB coaches, but Andy Reid, who made it to a SB was never a coordinator.

CoMoChief 02-07-2009 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5466423)
Actually very few head coaches do not have coordinator experience. When Herm was hired it was something like 29 of 32 coaches had previous coordinator experience. I don't think it's the be-all-end-all of qualifications for head-coaching candidates, but it's clearly an important step in the process of moving up the coaching ladder. If memory serves the only three head coaches who were not coordinators were Herm (FAIL), Marinelli (FAIL) and Reid (FAT).
Wasn't Reid OC under Mike Holmgren while he was in Green Bay?

milkman 02-07-2009 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5466964)
Wasn't Reid OC under Mike Holmgren while he was in Green Bay?
Asst HC and QB coach.

Edit:He actually spent a year as the O-Line coach before becoming the QB coach.

whoman69 02-07-2009 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5466953)
You probably are right about the winning SB coaches, but Andy Reid, who made it to a SB was never a coordinator.
The exception that proves the rule. I did think of another and that is Dick Vermeil.

EyePod 02-07-2009 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5466413)
<script>var premiumFlag = 0; </script>Once it became clear that the ESPN-spawned frenzy around Shanahan didn’t have much substance to it, Haley became my favorite candidate. <!--end STORY DISPLAY-->
Wasn't that based on Nick Athan's reporting? I thought that Mort originally said Shanahan was close to signing because of Athan.

Hammock Parties 02-07-2009 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5467006)
Wasn't that based on Nick "Assclown" Athan's reporting? I thought that Mort originally said Shanahan was close to signing because of Athan.
Technically, we broke the Shanahan news. But there was no frenzy over it. That came over Mortensen's report, which did NOT come from Nick.

B_Ambuehl 02-07-2009 12:43 PM
The negative thing IMO is it just shows Scott Pioloi really isn't the bad-ass everybody thought he was. If he was he wouldn't make an emotional "media hire" and would've known who he was gonna hire before he even got here. When he (Pioli) got this job Arizona was considered the worst playoff team of all time, their offense had looked like shit 6 of the previous 7 games, and the playcalling was getting trashed on a weekly basis. If they (AZ) lose to Atlanta there's just as good a chance Haley gets fired. But all the sudden the defense starts playing better, Wisenhunt forces Haley to run the ball occassionally, Warner plays well, and loe and behold the Cardinals end up in the super bowl and Haley is hailed as the second coming.

milkman 02-07-2009 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 5467041)
The negative thing IMO is it just shows Scott Pioloi really isn't the bad-ass everybody thought he was. If he was he wouldn't make an emotional "media hire" and would've known who he was gonna hire before he even got here. When he (Pioli) got this job Arizona was considered the worst playoff team of all time, their offense had looked like shit 6 of the previous 7 games, and the playcalling was getting trashed on a weekly basis. If they (AZ) lose to Atlanta there's just as good a chance Haley gets fired. But all the sudden the defense starts playing better, Wisenhunt forces Haley to run the ball occassionally, Warner plays well, and loe and behold the Cardinals end up in the super bowl and Haley is hailed as the second coming.
I feel much better about hiring Haley now.

NickAthanFan 02-07-2009 12:58 PM
I love true fans, they're great customurs.

B_Ambuehl 02-07-2009 12:59 PM
Maybe he is the 2nd coming, but basing that on a couple of really good games that are basically an aberration of his previous track record isn't something you'd expect a guy with the reputation of Pioli to do. This smells of a Jerry Jones hire, not a Belichik type hire.

milkman 02-07-2009 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl (Post 5467070)
Maybe he is the 2nd coming, but basing that on a couple of really good games that are basically an aberration of his previous track record isn't something you'd expect a guy with the reputation of Pioli to do. This smells of a Jerry Jones hire, not a Belichik type hire.
Sadly, you really believe that.


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