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kstater 02-08-2009 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5469693)
I take it you're like 12 years old.

From 1980 up until the Big 12 conference started in 1996, which is the era Gabe is referring to in this piece, Missouri had 7 conference championships, Kansas had 6, and Oklahoma had 4. For all practical purposes, those three teams WERE Big 8 basketball.

Many young ku fans have been a bit spoiled by the huge success Self's teams have had in recent years and think that's just how it always has been, but old time ku fans know that's not the case (even if they might not admit it now).

Thanks for reminding me why I hate ku fans.

They're the same fans that think KSU has 0 basketball history. When in fact there was a time when Ahearn was one of the most feared places to play in.

doomy3 02-08-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5469751)
Do programs stay in the "upper echelon" forever once they make it? Is Navy still a top tier football program in your mind? What about Nebraska?

KU is just like many programs - you have peaks and valleys. You are at a peak right now thanks to Self. Enjoy it, but don't act like you've been this good for decades and that you've always been better than Mizzou, because it makes you look like an absolute moron.

You're hilarious. And you couldn't be more wrong.

Skip Towne 02-08-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5469751)
Do programs stay in the "upper echelon" forever once they make it? Is Navy still a top tier football program in your mind? What about Nebraska?

KU is just like many programs - you have peaks and valleys. You are at a peak right now thanks to Self. Enjoy it, but don't act like you've been this good for decades and that you've always been better than Mizzou, because it makes you look like an absolute moron.

Who else do you know built a 16,000 seat arena more than 50 years ago? And KU won a NC in 1952. They've been good for quite awhile. Both Kentucky and North Carolina have fieldhouses named after KU grads.

doomy3 02-08-2009 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5469753)
They're the same fans that think KSU has 0 basketball history. When in fact there was a time when Ahearn was one of the most feared places to play in.

Yeah, you're right. KU and KSU are neck and neck too.

KSU: 1,407–1,024 .578 WP

KU: 1,943-785 .712 WP

Those are almost the same.

Skip Towne 02-08-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5469786)
Yeah, you're right. KU and KSU are neck and neck too.

KSU: 1,407–1,024 .578 WP

KU: 1,943-785 .712 WP

Those are almost the same.

That 1943 wins is good for third on the all time list. Only Kentucky and North Carolina have more.

kstater 02-08-2009 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5469786)
Yeah, you're right. KU and KSU are neck and neck too.

KSU: 1,407–1,024 .578 WP

KU: 1,943-785 .712 WP

Those are almost the same.

Point me to where I said they were neck and neck and almost the same. Re-read my post.

doomy3 02-08-2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5469794)
That 1943 wins is good for third on the all time list. Only Kentucky and North Carolina have more.

I'm sure Mizzou is 4th or 5th then, aren't they? I mean, eazyb81 says that they are on the same level as KU other than the Self era.

doomy3 02-08-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5469800)
Point me to where I said they were neck and neck and almost the same. Re-read my post.

You're right. I just went back and re-read. After reading it again, I'm not sure what point you were trying to make.

Skip Towne 02-08-2009 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5469803)
I'm sure Mizzou is 4th or 5th then, aren't they? I mean, eazyb81 says that they are on the same level as KU other than the Self era.

I think Duke and Syracuse are 4 and 5. I don't know where Missouri is.

doomy3 02-08-2009 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5469808)
I think Duke and Syracuse are 4 and 5. I don't know where Missouri is.

They have to be 6th then.

In all seriousness, is Syracuse that high?

Mosbonian 02-08-2009 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5469794)
That 1943 wins is good for third on the all time list. Only Kentucky and North Carolina have more.

As long as Billy Gillespie stays the Head Coach at Kentucky Kansas will make some headway on catching them...

mmaddog
*******

Mosbonian 02-08-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5469810)
They have to be 6th then.

OK...now you are just being obnoxious...

mmaddog
*******

eazyb81 02-08-2009 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5469755)
You're hilarious. And you couldn't be more wrong.

WHOA, great comeback!

That was almost as good of a rebuttal as when you said MU and KU have never been similar in basketball at any point, I posted factual evidence that proved you were wrong, and you responded with absolutely nothing.

What next? I can't wait to see what that great mind comes up with. I'm sure it will be a doozy.

Skip Towne 02-08-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mmaddog (Post 5469812)
As long as Billy Gillespie stays the Head Coach at Kentucky Kansas will make some headway on catching them...

mmaddog
*******

Both North Carolina and KU have been catching Kentucky by leaps and bounds in the last 10 years or so. I think NC is about 20 wins away.

doomy3 02-08-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5469820)
WHOA, great comeback!

That was almost as good of a rebuttal as when you said MU and KU have never been similar in basketball at any point, I posted factual evidence that proved you were wrong, and you responded with absolutely nothing.

What next? I can't wait to see what that great mind comes up with. I'm sure it will be a doozy.

to be honest with you, if you really believe that KU and MU basketball is anywhere on the same level, then you're not really worth coming up with anything great.


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