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CrazyHorse 02-09-2009 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 5471162)
Why would he be apprehensive about reading?
Ha ha. What a dumbass I am.

Comprehension,

He does seem a little apprehensive though

beach tribe 02-09-2009 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 5471164)
Elway=Ben.

Got it.
You=reerun

got it.



I did not say that.

beach tribe 02-09-2009 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 5471149)
Never said he wasn't legit, or that he was shitty. I said he wasn't great, and he's not.

I will argue however that you cant just throw any semblance of players together and have the #1 defense in the NFL. Are you saying Ben would have been in and won the SB with a middle of the road defense this season?
And you can't have an awesome D, and just throw any QB back there, and expect to win the SB.

CrazyHorse 02-09-2009 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5471168)
You=reerun

got it.



I did not say that.
I'll take that as a compliment. I've met some good people that are "reeruns".

None of them compare Elway to Ben either. So there ya go.

CrazyHorse 02-09-2009 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5471169)
And you can't have an awesome D, and just throw any QB back there, and expect to win the SB.
I agree.

Agent V 02-09-2009 07:16 AM
All Thigpen has proven is based on his part in the revitalization/gimmickization of the offense, he deserves CONTENTION for a QB spot. That's it. Do I think he deserves a starting spot in a pro-style offense? No.

I like the kid, I really do. I was a huge supporter when he was playing until I hit a realization: he's sloppy, he's only proven he can play in the spread, he's not clutch (I cite the Denver game, but I guess it's just something he hasn't proven), and his accuracy, especially throwing the long ball, is shit.

At his age, what CAN he do to improve accuracy?

tmax63 02-09-2009 07:44 AM
I've talked to football players who don't think the spread is just a gimmick. Getting as much distance between players as you can and exploiting 1-on-1 match-ups isn't as crazy as it sounds. Just like the no-huddle doesn't allow substitutions to exploit match-ups. Will it take over the NFL, not at all, but folks I have talked to seem to think it will find a home and a usefulness for teams that don't do the "wildcat" or other gimmicks to gain an advantage.

EyePod 02-09-2009 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5471125)
This argument proves why stats are overrated...

If you watched the Superbowl and have ANY question as to whether Roethlisberger is that teams franchise player, I can't help you.
James Harrison?

EyePod 02-09-2009 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kerberos (Post 5471148)
The Steelers only ask Big Ben to do enough to win games. No more. No Less.

Is he ever going to break any of Marino's or Favre's records? Probably not. But how may SB did Marino win? How many did Favre Win?

Saying that Rothlisberger isn't that good because of stats is kind of dumbassery and blind homerism if you are comparing Thigpen to him. Could Thigpen have won more games if we had a Defense like Blitzbergs? I am certain of it. But to think he can clutch win games is an uncertain cause he hasn't show he can do it. Ben has.

Keep doubting Big Ben as he will no doubt take the "Berg" to yet another SB in the next 5 years if I was a betting man.

BTW this is IMO. ;)
It's impossible to compare the two with just stats. What I think we should do is to say that Flacco and Ryan had better stats, but if you take into consideration Thigpen's terrible, terrible defense, Thigpen had a pretty good year and is worth considering for next.

soopamanluva 02-09-2009 08:03 AM
thigpen cannot, i repeat, cannot. throw deep. he does not have the arm strength nor can he play under center. it makes no sense that we are lined up in shotgun on goalline situations. that is what sets him below everyone else. he needs to be out all offseason working on those thing in order to be successful. because without tony, those numbers go out the window.
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Mecca 02-09-2009 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5471216)
James Harrison?
And as soon as Harrison expects to be paid he'll be cycled out just like Porter was just like Chad Brown was and on down the line of all the LB's they walked away from and replaced in the snap of a finger like it was no issue.

BigRichard 02-09-2009 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 5471170)
I'll take that as a compliment. I've met some good people that are "reeruns".

None of them compare Elway to Ben either. So there ya go.
Ouch!!! It will take him a while to come back from that one.ROFL

blueballs 02-09-2009 10:54 AM
Thigpen needs Toothless's size
but that guy is on the sideline

Micjones 02-09-2009 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5471125)
This argument proves why stats are overrated...

If you watched the Superbowl and have ANY question as to whether Roethlisberger is that teams franchise player, I can't help you.
Roethlisberger played like shit in the Superbowl save the last drive of the game.
That performance doesn't do your argument that he's a franchise player justice.

The Franchise 02-09-2009 10:59 AM
Thigpen hasn't proven that he can play in a regular offense.

I would hope he would have a lot of TDs in the spread.


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