Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5477981)

Because no one else represents a value to US after the QB's.

The 3 OT's are the only other players worthy of that pick, but only at LT. We have out LT, and you don't take a RT that high in the draft.

Crabtree is way to slow (and is proving it by avoiding running at the combine) to justify that pick. He's nowhere near the elite talent Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson or Fitzgerald were coming out.

It's bad value to take a LB that high, unless they project to be the next DT or LT. Curry is a coverbacker, and as much as I like Maualuga in the middle, it's way to high to take him.

That leaves us with Michael Jenkins at CB as the only true VALUE at our pick should both the QB's be gone.

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5478152)

What kind of time did AJ and Fitz run? I have been wondering this.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5478183)

Can't find anything official, I thought AJ ran a sub-4.4 time.



AJ: 4.43

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...yers/1211.html

Fitz: 4.53

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ers/46239.html


FWIW, people are saying that Crabtree is not running because he'll turn in a time in excess of 4.65 in Indy, and he knows he can time better on a fast track at his pro day.

Basically, he's unwilling to run on a level playing field.

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5478217)

People are saying he would run a 4.65? No shit? Man, I don't see that when watching him play.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5478253)

The fastest time I've found for him this year is 4.55

http://www.gbnreport.com/2007wrs.html

I've seen reports that he ran a 4.45 at Lubbock his freshman year.

I've seen reports that he's been timed as high as 4.65.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5476984)

If you have to take a player in that spot you take Jenkins.

Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 5482585)

christ...imagine Jenkins, Flowers, Carr, and Leggett...add Taylor Mays at safety next year..**** getting sacks, let em throw it

Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan (Post 5483691)

The Jets can't be happy about losing Favre and a weak QB draft class in the same year.

I wonder if they are going to try to jump us and grab one of the QB's with SL or Det, knowing we are *probably* going to take a QB at #3??

Is there any chance of that happening? I'm thinking Kellen Clemons isn't their QBOTF.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5483747)

First, there's not way they can trade up far enough. Their entire draft is worth about 1500 points, and the 2nd pick is worth 2600.

Second, everything I've read is that the old regime really liked Ratliff. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them have an open competition between Clemens, Ratliff and Ainge and Ratliff being the starter on opening day.

If the new regime decides they don't like any of those guys pre-draft, I could see them trying to make a trade, but that's unlikely, IMO.