Back in the day, ESPN.com was where the most competitive fantasy sports were played...everything was pay to play and there were thousands of players who took that shit balls to the wall serious.

I was one of them.

Seems like the only people who call it horseshit strategy are the ones who can't pull it off...

Streaming is part of H2H...H2H with capped transactions is Roto, plain and simple.

Roto is geared towards a great, balanced draft with educated waiver wire moves...capping H2H is rotoissifying H2H...so my advice to you is...stop bitching about streaming in H2H and start playing Roto...

Or get into a league that doesn't allow ANY waiver wire moves...those are fun leagues.

I would LOVE to play in a fantasy baseball league, ANY scoring system, against you so I could whip the living shit out of you...fantasy baseball is the one fantasy sport that is geared more towards skill and knowledge rather than luck (FFL).

"Pulling off" streaming is not difficult. Anybody with the time to do it and a rudimentary knowledge of baseball can "pull off" streaming. Only cost is staying up late so you can "push the button" before the other guys.

I have consistently crushed a few guys in a H2H league (with no move limits) that I play in by loading up on relievers myself. The streamers tend to go with more "value" closers than true studs like Nathan, I guess since they figure they're punting ERA and WHIP anyway, so I am still able to dominate them in saves (having 2-3 setup guys on your roster usually nets you a vulture save or two a week, too)

I've won the pitching categories 3-2 in the playoffs against oweners who stream each of the past two seasons (and won those categories at an 80 percent clip during the season). The strategy is an effective counter in invididual matchups and over the course of the season.

And I don't think imparting roster limits is "rotofying" H2H. It is increasing the difficulty of the league and the importance of making good moves each time.

Football isn't luck. I've taken 4 in a row in my keeper league, and I'm certainly NOT a lucky guy - just draft better than everyone in the league. There's a strategy to it all, that being that if you're gonna spend that pick on Brady, you get his backup.

It sounds like "streaming" is basically the same as jockeying your D/ST on a weekly basis, based on matchups - which I have no problem with.

But I think baseball is different, it's a 162-game every single fuck*ing day environment.....streaming in that arena, to me, is just a ridiculous amount of work...some of us need something outside fantasy sports in our lives....and it makes a good portion of the draft completely worthless. I'm inexperienced, but I'd certainly vote against it.

You can't lock them for doing something that's not technically illegal.

If you want to end streaming, then have a max amount of transactions per week. Until then though, no one really has room to bitch.

Also, it's not like streaming is some huge advantage. I tried to stream last year in my championship and still lost.

It's not arbitrage; it's a strategy, plain and simple.

It's douchebaggery for people attempting to glitch the system. It's Madden cheezing in a different milieu.

Would you then post a chat transcript to prove how <del>dominant</del> much of a douchebag you are?

Speaking of fantasy baseball is naptown starting another chiefsplanet league this year with Yahoo?

Also, who are the sleepers/rookies this year we should look out for? Any links to that type of info?

Well of course a guy like Pujols is a no-brainer. But that's talking about a .340+, 40+ HR guy. That's a no-brainer. But Ramirez will be neck and neck with guys like David Wright and Ryan Braun and Texeira, and I say go with Ramirez. Sizemore will line up against guys like Ryan Howard or Carlos Lee, and you gotta go with Sizemore.

Unless there is an enormous difference, I try to steer clear of 0 steal guys as much as possible. I think the easiest way to compete in SBs is to load up on 15 SB guys like Braun or Wright or Berkman. I don't agree with sacrificing a category. SBs is the easiest way to steal a category without even trying. Even if you don't have a Pierre or Tavarez (and you should NEVER go with guys like this), you can still end up ranked in the top 3 or 4 in SBs if almost every guy on your roster is capable of about 15 steals. And that's not hard to do at all and it would not come at a sacrifice to HRs, RBIs, or AVG.

So you're telling me it takes a massive amount of skill to stream guys? So going in and seeing someone is playing the Royals on a Saturday, or the Giants on a Sunday is a rocket science?

****ing please.

It takes far more skill to draft a team than it does to sit there like a ****ing loser every night grabbing the weekend starters.

Read this thread:

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthrea...rt#post4299292

When you play in an H2H league where 8 of the 10 owners are looking to stream...then yes, it takes a SHIT ton of strategy and research.

I'm not talking about streaming in a yahoo public league when you're the only guy who knows what the **** you're doing.

I love that you assume that because no one is in your league that no one is in a money league.

****, I played in a 14 team H2H $ league the last two years that was 7x7, and you don't see me bashing other guy's leagues because of it.

What a pathetic douchebag you are.

That is an awesome ****ing thread.

My offer still stands...I'm even better on the PC now that I can use my XBOX 360 controller...

No one beats this guy on Madden for the XBOX ORIGINAL...it's impossible.

Back when Madden actually had GOOD gameplay...it's a shame the only video game I play now is Halo 3...and yes, I'll sell you a 50, I have 6 ;)

Come on then, big guy...

Invite me to a league, any type of scoring, and we'll see who comes out on top.