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BigRedChief 03-23-2009 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by journeyscarab (Post 5604029)
im not saying we only get a 2nd rounder, i just dont know what else we would get.
Dropping from 3rd to 10th and only getting a 2nd rounder would not be a good deal for us but the devil is in the details of "other picks".

DaneMcCloud 03-23-2009 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5603975)
I'd rather grab Alex Mack instead of Barwin in the 2nd.
**** yeah. Or Unger.

Personally, I HATE Brown at Ten.

I've yet to hear a convincing argument that Brown will be Terrell Suggs.

Because that's exactly the type of production you'd expect at #10.

Mecca 03-23-2009 01:01 PM
Browns the best pass rusher from this draft in my view so you're not gonna get anything better this year.

The Franchise 03-23-2009 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5604149)
**** yeah. Or Unger.

Personally, I HATE Brown at Ten.

I've yet to hear a convincing argument that Brown will be Terrell Suggs.

Because that's exactly the type of production you'd expect at #10.
Would you complete the trade down to #10 and then trade #10 to the Ravens for Suggs?

DaneMcCloud 03-23-2009 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5604156)
Would you complete the trade down to #10 and then trade #10 to the Ravens for Suggs?
Hell yeah! But that would never happen.

The Franchise 03-23-2009 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5604159)
Hell yeah! But that would never happen.
Well you never know. I haven't heard anything about a contract being worked out for Suggs as of yet. Maybe they're waiting to see what happens on draft day.

DaneMcCloud 03-23-2009 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5604155)
Browns the best pass rusher from this draft in my view so you're not gonna get anything better this year.
I don't think the Chiefs focus should be on a pass rusher who's not an absolute, sure thing.

Terrell Suggs had like 22 sacks his final year in college. Brown had 13.5. Also, pass rushing OLB's are not uncommon in later rounds.

If Brown goes in the top ten, he'd better produce 10 sacks a year minimum or it's a wasted pick.

Mecca 03-23-2009 01:07 PM
Well first and foremost no one is a sure thing, there are guys who produced in college that never produced at the next level...

Also using Suggs as an example is being extreme he has the college record for sacks in a season and had question marks coming into his draft.

doomy3 03-23-2009 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5604167)
I don't think the Chiefs focus should be on a pass rusher who's not an absolute, sure thing.

Terrell Suggs had like 22 sacks his final year in college. Brown had 13.5. Also, pass rushing OLB's are not uncommon in later rounds.

If Brown goes in the top ten, he'd better produce 10 sacks a year minimum or it's a wasted pick.
Do you have multiple personalities or something? You literally spent days arguing with bdeg in the draft forum that the only place to find pass rush is in the first round. Now, you say that pass rushing OLB's are not uncommon in later rounds.

WTF?

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-23-2009 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5604001)
I like the trade and the pick, but there is no way in hell that Curry drops to number 14.

No shit ! What a stupid mock!

DaneMcCloud 03-23-2009 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5604214)
Do you have multiple personalities or something? You literally spent days arguing with bdeg in the draft forum that the only place to find pass rush is in the first round. Now, you say that pass rushing OLB's are not uncommon in later rounds.

WTF?
Brown projects to be an OLB.

I was speaking mainly about true defensive ends. I mentioned them by name as well (Peppers, Kearse, Bruce Smith, Mario Williams, Neil Smith, etc.).

DaneMcCloud 03-23-2009 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5604169)
Well first and foremost no one is a sure thing, there are guys who produced in college that never produced at the next level...

Also using Suggs as an example is being extreme he has the college record for sacks in a season and had question marks coming into his draft.
If he had questions marks, it was by dumb****s. With his size, athleticism, speed and college production there shouldn't have been any question marks.

bdeg 03-23-2009 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5604278)
Brown projects to be an OLB.

I was speaking mainly about true defensive ends. I mentioned them by name as well (Peppers, Kearse, Bruce Smith, Mario Williams, Neil Smith, etc.).
Put on the brakes, here.

We're not going to get into this again, but the discussion was about impact pass rushers. Meaning both.

If it had been about DE's it would've been an irrelevant point to bring up in the first place.

Mecca 03-23-2009 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5604284)
If he had questions marks, it was by dumb****s. With his size, athleticism, speed and college production there shouldn't have been any question marks.
He weighed 245lbs and put on weight and posted a poor time...teams questioned what his real position was.

Molitoth 03-23-2009 01:54 PM
Haha Broncos picking Josh Freeman @ 12 !


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