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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5665086)

Sure you do. You said you like Stafford and Sanchez. How did Stafford do against Florida in a big game? Sanchez hasn't had to come from behind to win games. Are you going to spend 60 million on a QB that comes up empty in big games, or on a different QB who hasn't proven he can come from behind?

Both of them have proven they can play to position you'll be asking them to play in the NFL. Whether or not they are a good QB in the NFL is a COMPLETELY different argument. And you know it.

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 5665179)

OK, I'm certainly no draft guy, but the way I see it is that it is a matter of probability. GMs are looking to maximize the production for the team. If you get a franchise QB, the production he gives to a team is unmatched. Therefore a higher value. Compared to a guard, even Will Shields can't produce nearly as much as a decent QB.
It is possible for an ILB to produce at a high level for the team, but it is historically more PROBABLE that you can get production from other positions with the players available at that position. Also factored in is what you can get later in the draft.

IMO that's the reason ILB aren't picked that high.

Hopefully that is a decent explainer.

Is Ray Lewis worth pick #3? Yes. But what's the probability you get Ray Lewis-type production from the pick compared to the probability of production from other guys available?
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Exactly.

James Harrison got to the QB a lot at Kent State, a lot more than Curry did...

Terrible guys like Kendrell Bell can look great as an ILB in a 3-4 defense, they are in no way worth a #3 pick.

I thought about making a club for Chiefsplanet for this upcoming draft. Its called the ABC club, Anybody But Curry, so whos down?

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5665384)

Terrible guys like Kendrell Bell can look great as an ILB in a 3-4 defense, they are in no way worth a #3 pick.

Bell was an OLB with pittsburgh.

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5665403)

Bell was an OLB with pittsburgh.

No hes was an OLB here...

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5665404)

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80fa4dbc

Did that guy just compare Curry to Richard Seymour? WOW.

Curry looks really intense there yelling with his arms crossed.lol

Orakpo doesn't have the body/build??? That's exactly what he has, guy says Chiefs are discounting him because he doesn't play inside.....ROFL

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 5665403)

Bell was an OLB with pittsburgh.

No he was an inside linebacker.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...001_roster.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...002_roster.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...003_roster.htm

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5665096)

Blind me? That's rich.

I'm not the one ignoring the past as is relates to positional value.

If it was generally considered a good idea by GM's to take ILB's that high, then BETTER players like Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacher, Patrick Willis, etc would have gone that high, instead of being taken 26th, 9th and 11th respectively - all in very average draft classes.

Now, if you think that Curry is better than all of those players I listed, then this conversation is going nowhere - other than possibly the mental ward - you'd have to be certifiably insane to think that.

Im ignoring that simply because I'd like to approach this whole thing with an open mind. I believe in how this team is going to evaluate and do there homework properly before they make their pick at #3. And honestly, thats everything right there. And what matters in the end.

I just don't agree with your approach on how you view whether a guy should be drafted or not.

At that time, there were higher rated prospects at the top of the draft class, and I think that pretty much explains it as to why those guys you mentioned were picked lower. Some worked out to be pretty good others not. But thats the draft right? Its pure hit or miss.

Curry is a highly rated prospect...Will he be good? Who knows? But if he is going in the top 5 that should say something. The least we can say is he is one of the better players coming out of the country. Not saying he'll be as good as those guys you mentioned, but what if he is? all Im saying is that if he is this whole "you don't draft LB in the top 3" will definately look really dumb.

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5665475)

No he was an inside linebacker.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...001_roster.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...002_roster.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...003_roster.htm

Who had 9 sacks as a rookie. I know, I know, those were no impact sacks because an ILB in a 3-4 got them. LOL

PhilFree:arrow:

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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5665515)

Interesting, I'm arguing from my side because I want to keep an open mind. Since I came back in January, I've read numerous posts stating that Curry is the only logical pick for us.

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5665566)

Who had 9 sacks as a rookie. I know, I know, those were no impact sacks because an ILB in a 3-4 got them. LOL

PhilFree:arrow:

He had 9 sacks as a rookie after getting only 7 at Georgia and 6 in JUCO.

Good thing he was a SECOND ROUND PICK.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5665588)

He had 9 sacks as a rookie after getting only 7 at Georgia and 6 in JUCO.

Good thing he was a SECOND ROUND PICK.

The point with that is you can have an impact player at the ILB position. That said I don't have Curry pigeon holed as just an ILB in a 3-4.

PhilFree:arrow: