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DJ's left nut 04-13-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666277)
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Looks like a nice enough player, but that clip doesn't tell us crap.

There were at least 5 picks in there where the QB flat out threw the ball at him. The TD runback was Tebow hitting him in the chest and him getting a running start with only the QB to beat. He only made a couple of plays that I thought were good strong plays on the ball, the rest were just gimme picks or right place/right time fumble recoveries. Oh, and he's got Pollard's disease, kept going high with the shoulder.

I'm certainly not ready to place him up there with Ed Reed or Ronnie Lott on the basis of that clip.

Micjones 04-13-2009 05:05 PM

Berry's supposed to be the better prospect of the two.

Mecca 04-13-2009 05:06 PM

He has better ball skills, he's not as physically impressive...they're very close.

Take into account that video is of him as a true freshman.

doomy3 04-13-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666277)
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Berry's a freak.

He plays so fast and has great ball skills.

There were a couple shitty throws from Stafford on that video.

Mecca 04-13-2009 05:10 PM

If you really wanna compare them, Berry has better ball skills and has some return ability. Mays is has better measurables and runs faster and is more of a hitter.

They'll likely both be great players although I'm not sure Berry is going to remain a strong safety at the next level with his 5'11 200lb build unless he really is Ed Reed.

Micjones 04-13-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5666319)
He has better ball skills, he's not as physically impressive...they're very close.

Take into account that video is of him as a true freshman.

So we're talking Ed Reed vs. Troy Polamalu?

htismaqe 04-13-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5666233)
The sad thing is, if we draft Curry and he turns out to be a good player, some on here will just hate on him because we took him too early.

DJ is a good player. Drafted at #15 overall and disappointing ever since.

If we take Curry at #3 overall, he better be ALOT BETTER than "good".

Mecca 04-13-2009 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5666333)
So we're talking Ed Reed vs. Troy Polamalu?

In a way Berry is very similar to Reed in the way he's built and what he does. But I'm not sure there is a physical comparison for Mays, he is 6'3 230lbs and is the fastest guy on the SC roster, freaks like him are something to behold.

htismaqe 04-13-2009 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5666259)
I don't see an impact game changer in this draft. In 2 years, I may be wrong, but you can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit with this draft.

I think most on here are too tied up into the fact that every year there are bonifide studs at the top. This year, there aren't. The draft isn't a cookie cutter situation.

All the more reason to take a player with more value as opposed to someone with the least amount of value.

If the entire upper end of the 1st round doesn't have any bonafide studs, then you have to compare them some other way. Position is a logical place to start. Which moves Curry down the list yet again.

Mecca 04-13-2009 05:13 PM

Taylor Mays says hello.

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htismaqe 04-13-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 5666292)
I don't like the pick at all at #3 but I'll understand if we do take him.

This.

Just Passin' By 04-13-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5666336)
DJ is a good player. Drafted at #15 overall and disappointing ever since.

If we take Curry at #3 overall, he better be ALOT BETTER than "good".

This is where the problem lies in the Curry debate, from what I'm seeing here. There are no non-tackle prospects that one can reasonably and confidently claim will be "ALOT BETTER than "good"". It's just that kind of draft.

Just Passin' By 04-13-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5666344)
All the more reason to take a player with more value as opposed to someone with the least amount of value.

If the entire upper end of the 1st round doesn't have any bonafide studs, then you have to compare them some other way. Position is a logical place to start. Which moves Curry down the list yet again.

Since there are no bonafide studs, the next move is to take the player you think is most likely to be a good player for you, regardless of position, but taking need into account. Your moving Curry would be all well and good IF THEY COULD TRADE THE PICK AND GET CURRY AT A LOWER SPOT. Since there is no publicly known likelihood of that, your codicil makes no sense.

KcFanInGA 04-13-2009 05:18 PM

Holy shit! Thanks for posting that vid Mecca! I dont watch as much college ball as I should and had not heard about this guy Berry.

Mecca 04-13-2009 05:18 PM

Personally I'm leaning Raji no NT for a 3-4 equals complete suck.


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