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Another reason I think Clark was smart to hire Pioli... (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=206567)

wild1

04-25-2009 08:47 AM

Carl would have just hired another one of his cronies. Can you think of anytime he didn't? We'd have kept trying to sign free agents on the cheap hoping some of them panned out. And we would have kept the same schmucks around hoping they had another year or two left.

We all saw what the Carl Peterson culture got us. In the last 15 years - zero.

It's nice to not have a culture of failure there anymore.

Reerun_KC

04-25-2009 08:48 AM

Would be sweet to see Pioli draft Sanchez and deal Cassel for more picks...

Just Passin' By

04-25-2009 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5704467)

I think anyone could have been amazing with that team. I still don't think Brady is that special.

Still drunk from last night, then, huh?

wild1

04-25-2009 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5704626)

Would be sweet to see Pioli draft Sanchez and deal Cassel for more picks...

Would you be interested in purchasing a bridge?

the Talking Can

04-25-2009 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5704467)

I think anyone could have been amazing with that team. I still don't think Brady is that special.

good grief

:spock:

Reerun_KC

04-25-2009 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wild1 (Post 5704633)

Would you be interested in purchasing a bridge?

better chance of me purchasing a bridge than Cassel leading this team to a superbowl...

R&GHomer

04-25-2009 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 5704417)

Pioli hawking over the O-Line in practice and being more worried about business given what he inherited than catering to the media is a God sent.

I'm happy to be a Chiefs fan, this new crew is how otter would be handling things if he were in charge.

I know, I know...

I like 'em, I like 'em a lot and our owner is the guy who made it happen. The guy at the top just set the measuring stick for who he wants under him.

No friends bullshit, no more being more worried about who's gonna kiss your ass and placate your ego and tell you "it's not your fault Carl". This is how things should be run and if it's not the 100% formula for success it's a ****ing step in the right direction. 'Yes men' are for losers, you need people who tell you what your weaknesses are and help you compensate for them.

Keep friends and business separate.

**** YOU CARL!!!!

I still can't believe it's going this way after all these years.

/thank you for the opportunity to rant

This

Dave Lane

04-25-2009 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5704626)

Would be sweet to see Pioli draft Sanchez and deal Cassel for more picks...

It would be sweet to draft Sanchez have him learn under Cassel for a year or two then develop into a franchise QB. Now THAT would be sweet my friend...

Reerun_KC

04-25-2009 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 5704672)

It would be sweet to draft Sanchez have him learn under Cassel for a year or two then develop into a franchise QB. Now THAT would be sweet my friend...

:clap::clap::clap:

Messier

04-25-2009 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 5704672)

It would be sweet to draft Sanchez have him learn under Cassel for a year or two then develop into a franchise QB. Now THAT would be sweet my friend...

So, rd1- QB
rd 2-QB

That would be dumb with so many needs on this team to devote the first two picks to QB's

Mr. Krab

04-25-2009 10:00 AM

We actually have a GM instead of a CEO. You can already see how much more concerned with player personnel Pioli is, compared to Carl.

htismaqe

04-25-2009 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5704610)

There have been a lot of QBs drafted over the years in the 6th or 7th rounds.

75 or 80 in the last 20 years.

They all had something that the teams drafted saw in them, but only 3 ever actually amounted to more than scrubs, unless you want to include guys like Jeff Blake and and Rodney Peete, and a couple of others of that ilk.

But the only real success stories are Brady, Matt Hasselbeck and Marc Bulger.

If we're lucky, we might be able to add Cassel to that small group.

I'm not saying there wasn't luck involved. But it takes MORE than just luck, and you know that.

FAX	04-25-2009 11:28 AM

I couldn't agree more, Mr. htismaqe.

Well, maybe I could if I were generally more agreeable. Or, had you also mentioned that our new leadership appears to be completely focused on instilling a winning and competitive organizational culture.

In a way, I think that's the most difficult aspect of a turnaround. Peeps sort of develop a losing attitude over time ... as if they expect to lose although they wouldn't admit it - perhaps even to themselves. In my opinion, Pioli's mere presence makes a statement that the Chiefs are going to compete and win - not to mention his attitude.

Pioli's expertise, knowledge, and experience aside, he brings cred to our shed. Both within and outside the franchise.

FAX

milkman

04-25-2009 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5704988)

I'm not saying there wasn't luck involved. But it takes MORE than just luck, and you know that.

I understand that there is a lot research, interviews and character assessment, background checks, etc, that all had a hand in their decision to make that pick.

Clearly, they were smart enough to make that pick, at the strong behest of their QB coach, so in aspect of the process, luck isn't a factor.

There's also coaching and other factors that aren't a part of luck

However, he also clearly had questions concerning his ability, which is why he didn't go before the sixth round.

The fact that a sixth round pick did develop into a QB who, at the end of his career, will be brought into a discussion of all time greats, is lucky.

In that regard, the fact that he did develop into an all time great is lucky.

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