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CoMoChief 04-28-2009 03:33 PM
Our defense will suck for a couple more seasons IMO.

MOhillbilly 04-28-2009 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5723100)
Our defense will suck for a couple more seasons IMO.
i dont think so. i believe by mid season KC will be around 15th in total D. loads of talent on this team,believe it or not.

Mr. Krab 04-28-2009 03:37 PM
Our talent level isn't going to be significantly different this year. It will be a good experiment about coaching vrs talent.

MOhillbilly 04-28-2009 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5723110)
Our talent level isn't going to be significantly different this year. It will be a good experiment about coaching vrs talent.
true but i got the feel that the D was was just as tired of gun as the fans. like a black fog over the team.

RustShack 04-28-2009 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5723110)
Our talent level isn't going to be significantly different this year. It will be a good experiment about coaching vrs talent.
Our talent wasn't terrible last year, the coaching was. Jackson, Magee, Washington, Daniels, Thomas, Vrabel, Robertson, Mays, and Beisel are pretty big upgrades over what we had too.

shitgoose 04-28-2009 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 5723104)
i dont think so. i believe by mid season KC will be around 15th in total D. loads of talent on this team,believe it or not.
I think it hinges on the transition to a 3-4. We have some leadership now with Vrabel and Thomas. Hopefully DJ plays to his potential and the guys on our line spend more time on the opposing teams line of scrimmage.

Fritz88 04-28-2009 03:39 PM
The guy's got potential.

MOhillbilly 04-28-2009 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by shitgoose (Post 5723119)
I think it hinges on the transition to a 3-4. We have some leadership now with Vrabel and Thomas. Hopefully DJ plays to his potential and the guys on our line spend more time on the opposing teams line of scrimmage.
its why i said by mid season. it also depends on how the offense does throwing the ball. if the O is something crazy like top ten/five itll hurt the Ds numbers. i agree though there is some leadership in place and a new start gets everybody amped.

I think KC will suprise some people this next year.

wasi 04-28-2009 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5723110)
Our talent level isn't going to be significantly different this year. It will be a good experiment about coaching vrs talent.
I could live with saying the talent level might be the same or slightly higher than last year. However, I think there will be improvement because the rookies last year will have had an entire offseason to condition themselves and hopefully they learned to apply their talent (albeit marginal in some cases) better than last year as rookies.

I also think having the likes of Thomas and Vrabel on the field will help. I see improvement happening.

Fritz88 04-28-2009 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5722751)
I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer, but how can i guy that athletic only have 3 ints and 4 pass defenses in his entire career?


Stats

<table border="1" bordercolor="#e4e4e4" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="13%">Season Year</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">GP</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">GS</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">Solo</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">Asst</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">TT</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">TFL</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">Sacks</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">FF</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">FR</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">INTs</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">PD</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">QBH</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eaeeee"> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">'06-'07</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">13</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">9</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">28</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">13</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">41</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">2</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#f5f5f5"> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">'07-'08</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">13</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">13</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">29</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">10</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">39</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">2</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">2</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eaeeee"> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">'08-'09</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">13</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">10</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">18</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">4</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">22</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#f5f5f5"> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">'09-'10</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td></tr></tbody></table>
True. But he can be coached. That's my only consolation.

shitgoose 04-28-2009 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 5723130)
its why i said by mid season. it also depends on how the offense does throwing the ball. if the O is something crazy like top ten/five itll hurt the Ds numbers. i agree though there is some leadership in place and a new start gets everybody amped.

I think KC will suprise some people this next year.
I hope your right. It would be nice to see the team progress as the season goes on compared to them sucking all season long like the last two years.

Brock 04-28-2009 03:47 PM
Getting rid of Herm and Gunther should easily translate into two wins by itself.

Cosmos 04-28-2009 10:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5722751)
I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer, but how can i guy that athletic only have 3 ints and 4 pass defenses in his entire career?


Stats

<table border="1" bordercolor="#e4e4e4" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="13%">Season Year</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">GP</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">GS</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">Solo</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">Asst</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">TT</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">TFL</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">Sacks</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">FF</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">FR</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">INTs</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">PD</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center" width="7%">QBH</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eaeeee"> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">'06-'07</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">13</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">9</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">28</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">13</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">41</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">2</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#f5f5f5"> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">'07-'08</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">13</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">13</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">29</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">10</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">39</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">2</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">2</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#eaeeee"> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">'08-'09</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">13</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">10</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">18</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">4</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">22</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">1</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#f5f5f5"> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">'09-'10</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td> <td style="font-size: 12px;" align="center">---</td></tr></tbody></table>
Only 9 reps on the bench press...

FD 04-28-2009 10:49 PM
Asante Samuel was taken in the 4th round too, I believe.

Thanks for the vid.

KCinNY 04-28-2009 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5723160)
Getting rid of Herm and Gunther should easily translate into two wins by itself.
At least.

6-10 should be automatic with competent coaching.


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