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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5744184)

They (two hyphens) don't belong, which is the problem I'm assuming that TC is talking about.

And really, how does it make it easier to read?

Both of those words are hyphenated compounds. The usage is correct.

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Originally Posted by THISmaqe (Post 5744199)

Both of those words are hyphenated compounds. The usage is correct.

Back in the day, they weren't acceptable.

Rules change.

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5744184)

They (two hyphens) don't belong, which is the problem I'm assuming that TC is talking about.

And really, how does it make it easier to read?

The hyphen in "well-rested", which is the one I thought you had a problem with, makes it easier to read because it ties the two words together for the reader as a description of the noun "defense". IMO, it saves the reader a little effort by preventing him from having to sort that connection out. Apparently the grammar police at grammarbook.com agree with me, fwiw.

So, I wonder if the Talking Can has something else in mind or if he'll be a stand up guy and admit that Claythan isn't really "too stupid" to see the supposed error after all.

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5743303)

I think adding Goff is a lot bigger than people believe. The right side isn't terrible anymore, but our guards aren't a long term solution either.

Well, this is true as long as Goff comes back from that injury... ahhh **** it. He's an improvement over Adrian Jones even if he lost a ****ing leg.

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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5744323)

Well, this is true as long as Goff comes back from that injury... ahhh **** it. He's an improvement over Adrian Jones even if he lost a ****ing leg.

Exactly.

I don't think people realize that we could have line up NOBODY at RG last season and it would have been an improvement over Jones.

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 5744252)

So, I wonder if the Talking Can has something else in mind or if he'll be a stand up guy and admit that Claythan isn't really "too stupid" to see the supposed error after all.

how about switching "offense" and "defense" in that last sentence...you know, so it actually makes sense....

are you his editor?

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5744395)

how about switching "offense" and "defense" in that last sentence...you know, so it actually makes sense....

are you his editor?

If you did that, it would change the meaning to something that the author didn't intend (and it wouldn't make nearly as much sense).

When you have a porous run defense, the opposing team's offense stays on the field longer, controls the ball, and runs it down your throat until they score. Then your offense comes on the field and tries to play catch-up against the well-rested defense of the other team.

I hope this helps.

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5744395)

how about switching "offense" and "defense" in that last sentence...you know, so it actually makes sense....

are you his editor?

How would that make sense?

Having a poor run defense and allowing points in the run game puts pressure on the offense to play catch-up against an opposing defense that is well-rested because they haven't been on the field.

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Originally Posted by Clayton

When you only get to the quarterback 10 times in 16 games, it’s fairly obvious your roster is stocked with a lack of individuals who can beat an offensive tackle with any sort of consistency.

Being overly critical... but....

Gretz rips off Wendler:

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Time to Stop the Run

May 06, 2009, 8:40:44 AM by Bob Gretz - FAQ

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/images...02137332409335There was a lot of attention paid last year to the fact that the Chiefs defense established a new record for pass rush futility in the history of the NFL. Ten sacks in 16 games. Ten sacks in 532 passing plays by their opponents.
If the Chiefs are going to pull themselves out of the dregs of NFL defenses, they will have to find a way to get the passer on the ground at a more frequent rate. But more importantly, they will have to improve their defense against the run.
A better run defense will make for a better pass rush for one obvious reason: it’s a lot easier to rush the quarterback and get him on the ground when the offense’s options are limited by the down and distance. A good run defense forces second-and-long and third-and-long situations and that’s fertile ground for pass rush success.
The Chiefs defense did not have that luxury last season. Why? They were one of the league’s worst defenses on stopping the first-down running play. Over the ‘08 season, the Chiefs allowed four yards or more on first down runs 49.3 percent of the time. Because of that, they saw more running plays on first down than most teams. Hey, NFL offensive coordinators are not stupid. They see the scouting report stats each week and if the opposition can’t stop the run on first down, then they are going to see a healthy dose of the run game at 1st-and-10.
On average, the Chiefs gave up 5.2 yards on first down running plays. Only the Lions were worse. Not so coincidentally, those defenses in Kansas City and Detroit were the worst in the league.
Those numbers make the drafting of guys like Tyson Jackson and Alex Magee a bit more understandable. Between them, the pair played in 103 games at LSU (Jackson) and Purdue (Magee). They started 71 games. They combined for 24.5 sacks. Over eight seasons of college football between them, that’s not a lot of evidence of a pass rush. They will have to show in the pros they can rush the passer.
But what Jackson and Magee are is big, stout defenders and their job with the Chiefs defense is going to be one thing first and foremost: stop the run.
None of this means the Chiefs are going to be happy with a similar pass rush to what was seen during the ‘08 season. They most definitely must put more heat on the quarterback to have any defensive success and thus victories for the team.
Right now there are 14 players on the Chiefs roster with at least one NFL sack. There are only three that have more than 15 sacks over their careers. Here are the top six sackers currently wearing a Chiefs uniform:

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/images...96192541808087

It’s very important that the Chiefs find pass rushers to help the six men on this list. But until they get better at stopping the run, it won’t matter.

And doesn't do NEAR as good a job on the subject at hand.
**** you, Fatty Lap Dog.

Woof Woof!

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5744739)

Gretz rips off Wendler:

And they both got the idea from me

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Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5716808)

Agree, I think that's exactly what this is. Building from the inside out, if we hadn't added some linemen a pass rusher may not have mattered. It was obvious anyone could run over us at will last season. 5 yds per carry was almost a given, some teams were getting 5 rushing first downs on 5 plays.

or maybe it's an obvious point and there's not much else to talk about right now

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Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5744790)

And they both got the idea from me

or maybe it's an obvious point and there's not much else to talk about right now

ALL HAIL-

Wait. Who the hell are you again?:rolleyes:

you do realize the first comment was sarcastic, right? i would assume the second sentence would tell you that

maybe i should've put it more bluntly: it's hard for writers not to cover the same material and sometimes make the same points when they're covering the same team

Gretz gets more exposure so it's not like he would can an article because Claythan recently made similar points on wpi.

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Originally Posted by bdeg (Post 5744826)

Very well then.