Well, if you like it, I might change my tune.

I bet Brown would be a lot better if Gunther was coaching him.

ROFL

Mike Brown has a solid 5 years left under his belt

Assuming he stays healthy.

Did he play SS or FS in Chicago?

Holy super optimistic bastard, batman

Yeah but he sucks.

Mandatory white guy rule.:D

Bullshit.

If "guys listened to him", Dwayne Bowe wouldn't have shown up at OTA's 30 pounds overweight.

What does this say about Romeo if anything? OOPs his name id Brown, he was not a Brown :banghead:

Sammy Knight may have been sea turtle on land slow, but I think he brought respect and savvy. Beating out a vet can only booster confidence and sets a goal. Ranks right up there with talent in young players.

Wow, the reaction in this thread is WAY below what it should be.

This is a phenomenal signing for us.

WTF guys.

This is a good signing, no disagreement from me. The big issue here is his health. If he can stay off from the injured list, and is playing on Sundays, I won't complain too much.

Where do you get that Green was pissed about Croyle? From everything I have heard and seen, Green and Huard went out of their way to take Croyle under their wing.

I do agree that the role of mentorship is overrated, but I disagree that leaders are any less important. And Sapp is not exactly an expert on leadership and followership--he was neither during his career and he was so good that he didn't really need anyone's help anyway. Not only that, but he plays a position that is largely a physical skill position--you either have it, or you don't. It's not like QB where you can make up for inferior talent by being superior at the mental part of the game. While mentorship is overrated, leadership is not. A young player will listen to another young player much less than to a veteran. When Zach Thomas yells at a player for screwing up on the field, are you really going to tell me he doesn't hold more weight than Demorrio Williams? Here's a classic example: Matt Cassel apparently has a "Brady-like" work ethic--do you really think he would have picked that same work ethic up if he was "mentored" on the same Patriots team, but with Daunte Culpepper as the starting QB?

I think you underrate the role of veteran leaders. In my opinion, it's the sole reason why teams like Washington and Oakland never succeed, in spite of loading up on talented players--it's because the team continually picks up veterans who have no leadership capacity. Mentorship doesn't always mean taking a kid under their wing. Many times, it's just showing kids the right habits, even if they don't intentionally try to do so. I guarantee that even if Jerry Rice was supposedly a self-absorbent prick, everyone around him became so much better just by watching such a superb practitioner of the game.

Phenomenal? How so?

He's 31. He hasn't played a 16 game season since 2003.

2008: 15 games
2007: 1 games
2006: 6 games
2005: 12 games
2004: 2 games

The guy might not even make it out of training camp.

Your verbosity knows no bounds.

Trent Green was pissed and said so on the draft broadcast. He said in print that he was unhappy and shocked that the Chiefs would take a QB with a third round pick.

If he was truly a team player that cared about the team, he wouldn't have tried to force his way back into the lineup when the Chiefs were performing very well on offense under Huard. But of course, that's a different issue.