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007 07-05-2009 03:14 PM

Hmmm, maybe this will finally be the straw that breaks their back. Unlikely I'm sure though.

Just Passin' By 07-05-2009 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5881674)
That was never proven........JFC I swear some people are blind. It doesn't matter if it's 100 kids or just 1 kid, he's still a pedophile. Some of these kids were describing Wacko's cock. Gee wonder where they got those descripitons? Guess they all just made it up.

Cmon he was tried for this not once but twice. Once in 1993 and then again in 2005.

But hey......lets just blame it all on the tabloids. They're the one's responsible for all of this. ROFL

OJ was innocent to because they never proved him guilty as well.

Hey, you're free to believe as you will, but don't act as if prosecutors and their witnesses are never willing to shade the game. The McMartins would be happy to explain how the overzealous can ruin lives.

Mr. Krab 07-05-2009 03:40 PM

I can't believe somebody hasn't just killed these sacks of crap yet. With all the stories of people grabbing guns, and going back to work or a store, to start shooting and they miss this place?

LaChapelle 07-05-2009 03:43 PM

It's easier to believe that lots of parents let their children stay with a know pedophile. Than a few lied about it?

BigRock 07-05-2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5881678)
Because he was tried for it in 1993.

you can look up the trial for specifics because I dont feel like it.

He was not tried in 1993. He reached a financial settlement with the accuser the night before he (Michael) was supposed to be deposed for a civil suit (meaning he'd have to swear under oath that he hadn't done anything).

Without the accuser, there was no criminal case to be brought. The only trial was in 2005.

Manila-Chief 07-05-2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5881532)
These people seem to want to spread a message of hate. I'm a baptist, and the actions of these people make me sick to my stomach.

Yeah Luv … I had to do a quick search to see if they are one of "ours." Whew!!! Sure am glad they are NOT! They are independent ... maybe because no Baptist group will have anything to do with them. They claim to be Primitive Baptist, but the Primitive Baptist group disavow the church.

The church/pastor is just plain weird. He/they evidently does/do not read/use the same Bible that we use. Seems like "the gospel according to Fred Wolf." Takes a little truth and twists it into what he wants it to be. It harms the cause of Christ!!!

Oh! I'd like to ask him ... "who made you the judge (determining what will happen to all these people)?" My Bible says that God (and God alone) is the judge.

BTW ... I'll be happy when the funeral is over. Maybe the media will find something else to talk about. But, for me it's not MJ ... it's all this type of situations. I want to hear the news and then move on. Not have a network flashing "Breaking News" a week after something happened. But, that's just me!!!

luv 07-05-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief (Post 5881799)
Yeah Luv … I had to do a quick search to see if they are one of "ours." Whew!!! Sure am glad they are NOT! They are independent ... maybe because no Baptist group will have anything to do with them. They claim to be Primitive Baptist, but the Primitive Baptist group disavow the church.

The church/pastor is just plain weird. He/they evidently does/do not read/use the same Bible that we use. Seems like "the gospel according to Fred Wolf." Takes a little truth and twists it into what he wants it to be. It harms the cause of Christ!!!

Oh! I'd like to ask him ... "who made you the judge (determining what will happen to all these people)?" My Bible says that God (and God alone) is the judge.

BTW ... I'll be happy when the funeral is over. Maybe the media will find something else to talk about. But, for me it's not MJ ... it's all this type of situations. I want to hear the news and then move on. Not have a network flashing "Breaking News" a week after something happened. But, that's just me!!!

Exactly, if they are really baptists, then they do should not believe in a works based salvation. You cannot look at a person and tell them where they're going. Only God knows our hearts, and He will judge accordingly. MJ will have to answer for himself.

BucEyedPea 07-05-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 5881474)
Well duh, they are seeking publicity and the absolute worst thing anyone can do is acknowledge their existence.

I agree. I can't believe they're going to picket MJackson funeral. As if he didn't have enough controversy in his life. Let him leave this world in peace.

Manila-Chief 07-05-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5881532)
These people seem to want to spread a message of hate. I'm a baptist, and the actions of these people make me sick to my stomach.

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5881811)
Exactly, if they are really baptists, then they do should not believe in a works based salvation. You cannot look at a person and tell them where they're going. Only God knows our hearts, and He will judge accordingly. MJ will have to answer for himself.

Amen sister! Preach on ... oooppps ... some Baptist don't like women preachers. :D

I'm trying to be cute but this is very good observation. When people ask me if a relative/friend went to heaven, I honestly say, "I don't know ... I don't make that decision ... only God ... He determines those things not me." Now, there are times when I have a pretty good idea, but no need to offend someone and in truth ... I (we) really don't know.

"MJ will have to answer for himself." Yes! I do not believe God killed MJ. If he had a doctor give him that powerful drug and just didn't wake up ... he did it to himself. Could God have saved MJ ... YES, but as in most cases ... He didn't. Too often, we want to blame God for something we caused ourselves ... and God just lets it happen.

Groves 07-05-2009 05:15 PM

If you're already in the world of "picketing famous funerals with outlandish statements (that contain some truth, too)", then an MJ funeral is a must-picket. Must.

I mean, if you're out to grab headlines, why wouldn't you?

The Lord sees all they are doing as well. Don't worry.

-King- 07-05-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5881674)
That was never proven........JFC I swear some people are blind. It doesn't matter if it's 100 kids or just 1 kid, he's still a pedophile. Some of these kids were describing Wacko's cock. Gee wonder where they got those descripitons? Guess they all just made it up.

Cmon he was tried for this not once but twice. Once in 1993 and then again in 2005.

But hey......lets just blame it all on the tabloids. They're the one's responsible for all of this. ROFL

OJ was innocent to because they never proved him guilty as well.

There was only 1 kid that described it. And seriously, how hard is it to describe a penis? I mean, what the hell? Anyone can basically describe anyone's penis.

And it's funny how he was able to settle in both of his allegations. Come on, if you are a parent and a guy molests your kid, you want him in jail right? How the **** does money make up for your kid being molested? What kind of parent thinks like that? "Um..I understand you molested my kid and scarred him for life, but since you're a star, gimme some money and we'll be on our way". Thats one reason I dont believe this stuff. No parent in their right mind would rather have that than to see the dirtbag go to jail.

Secondly, the parent was in deep deep debt. He could gain the most out of suing Michael.
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. The friendship became well known, as the tabloid media reported that Jackson became a member of the Chandler family unit. Under the influence of a controversial sedative administered by Evan Chandler, his son said that Jackson had touched his penis.[1] Evan Chandler was tape-recorded threatening to damage the singer's music career,[2] and engaged Jackson in unsuccessful negotiations to resolve the issue with a financial settlement.
Come on! Does this sound like a guy trying to gain justice, or just trying to weasel some money out of a controversial pop star? And he needed to drug his child just so he would say that Michael touched him? WTF!


In the 2005 case, he was found not guilty.
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Gavin insisted no molestation had occurred and that Jackson was "innocent".[8] Gavin, his sister Daveline, brother Star and mother Janet were "upfront" and said that inappropriate behavior had "absolutely not occurred" while also calling him a father figure.[8] They also insisted that they slept in Jackson's bed although Jackson himself always slept on the floor.
So they said that...and then later tried to sue him? And then they tried to get the same lawyer that had gotten the settlement in the '93 case so they could try to get money also.

Seriously, the accusers are pieces of shit and they messed up MJs legacy. All the other families(many) have said that Michael was innocent.

BigRock 07-05-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5881853)
There was only 1 kid that described it. And seriously, how hard is it to describe a penis? I mean, what the hell? Anyone can basically describe anyone's penis.

Michael had a skin disorder. He had discolorations on both his dangle and his bag. The kid drew pictures of it.

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 5881853)
And it's funny how he was able to settle in both of his allegations. Come on, if you are a parent and a guy molests your kid, you want him in jail right?

The same line of thinking cuts both ways. If you're a rich and powerful person who loves children, wouldn't you do anything and everything possible to clear your name? Why pay for it to go away?

Anyone who isn't familiar with the accusations should really read Maureen Orth's pieces from Vanity Fair. They've archived them here:

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/pol...ts-remain.html

If you can read all that and then say that you still don't think he did anything wrong, fair enough.

gblowfish 07-05-2009 06:22 PM

It doesn't bother Fred that Jacko was a pedophile.
He's pissed because he was a homosexual pedophile.

I predict footage of the Phelps clan moonwalking and holding their "God Hates bundle of stickss" signs with sequined gloves....

Headline story on TMZ.

God, I hate pop culture....

StcChief 07-05-2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 5881828)
I agree. I can't believe they're going to picket MJackson funeral. As if he didn't have enough controversy in his life. Let him leave this world in peace.

and let God deal with child molesting A$$.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-05-2009 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by StcChief (Post 5881939)
and let God deal with child molesting A$$.

There is no god.


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