When the rosters are complete, I think I'll do a "season beginning poll", and ask the voters to rank each unit on the teams. Probably a version for the 2009 season and a version of "looking both now and to the future". It'll only be for show since the real decisions will come at the end of the season, but it'll give us some objective feedback.

I'm wrong? Doomy you are telling me your d is better?? Besides nt I beat you overall no way your o is better but my d is by far better than yours.

Dude....I'll go ahead and compare your defenses.

Defensive Line - The nod goes to Choo-Choos. Not only are his starters good....but he's got a ton of depth in pass rushers.

Linebackers - Honestly....I'll give the edge to the Cobras...only because he's got great LBs for a 3-4. But honestly dude.....you just grabbed the Ravens old LB corp...and added Harrison. Minus Suggs....you don't have too much youth. The Choo-Choos don't have a bunch of slackers either.

Defensive Backfield - Easily given to the Choo-Choos. Asomaugha (sp) and Gamble are two awesome starting CBs....and McKelvin is a great nickle (and kick/punt returner). Talib is a ballhawk at FS and Sanders is a punisher at SS. The Cobras have some great young safetys but your CBs are iffy. Flowers is good...but he has to prove it again and Robinson is good...but not great.

Ok I figured this would happen when all is said and done my d will be better. But you can have your opinion mile who I think has unbias opinion said I like that D. You guys are putting way too much value on youth in this thing and are missing solid older players for the potential of youth. I have a complete team I have the best kr now in the game arguablly one of the best kickers in the league. Everyone questions me trading for cassel but what if he is great. By the end of this it's gonna be hard to find a weakness.

Who on the d line besides Warren? Carricker? Young but what has he done, Carter?,


They all are better than pryce and henderson??


Heck I'm surprised u even gave me the LB core although u did take a pop shot at me again bout taking alot of ravens? Should I be blasted for this. I figure you also think it was a bad idea for the owner to take almost the whole Titan o line. It's a long way to go pest before you or doomy claim the championship.

Dude, calm down. You posted your roster for feedback, and made a claim that you have the best defense. That's all fine, that's your opinion. No one is "blasting" anyone.

IMO, my defense is much better than yours at nearly every position. Luckily, the other members on CP will be voting on this, so yours and mine opinions really don't matter all that much.

My team won't look good to the voters, but many of them (if any bother to vote) will vote purely on names, and I don't have the big name guys, just solid players, and one of the younger teams assembled.

yea i guess im just not that big of a Flacco fan, but i do think i like the rest of my team.

Dude...I said that he had the best team based on potential. And yeah I did blast the guy who took the entire Titan's o-line.

I think it's crazy doomy that you think your d is easily better than mine who is your pass rush? Lawson?? Carter?? Harvey?? And that's better than suggs Harrison pryce. I'm sorry man but you are dillusional.

CAT FIGHT!!!!

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I hope nobody takes any offense to the commentary... I think the comments and feedback are great and I think a few of us will take shots at each other because we're pretty sure the other guy can take it.

So, if anyone thinks "Dammit - that ahole just blasted my team" when reading my comments, please know that I'm not saying you're a fool for the team you've built. I'm just trying to have some fun.

I'm hoping that everyone is taking this approach.

If I'm comparing teams, yes I will do my best to make the argument for my squad, but I'll acknowledge defeat when appropriate.

Regarding the youth comment... I'm loading up with youth because I pulled a Ditka and traded my rookie picks. So, that's the course I chose to take.

I think you should definitely plug in the older veterans when you can, hell I won't pass on a guy (TJ Housh, Kreutz as examples) if they're in their 30s.

But, overall... I'm looking for the foundation to be 2-3 year veterans for the most part.

Voting - I do think that many will look at names and say "Damn, that dude has X Player... by default he wins". I get it and it's similar to Pro-Bowl voting, so while I think my collection of phenoms in the making is superior, I'm certainly not expecting to win any fan voting.

You know what....I'm not comparing anyone's teams again until this thing is finished. People getting butthurt over the stupidest shit.

Oh stop it... I think this is all about nothing. It's more sports debate. I think we just need to make sure we hold back on the "Man, are you kidding? Your team sucks..." and just focus on the "No, that team is better and here is why.."

We'll all be fine. C'mon, it's a bunch of dudes cyber-kicking each other in the groin about football...

And, that being said... my only real weak link right now is QB (thanks to injury) and OL (injury at LT and lack of bodies right now)... everywhere else (RB/WR/LB/DB)... I'm set and you guys are envious. I know.

ROFL

Just because you don't know who they are doesn't mean they aren't good.

Trent Cole, Andre Carter and Derrick Harvey can all rush the passer. Andre Carter could be VERY good this year now that he is playing on the same side as Albert Haynesworth and will be rushing like crazy. Ty Warren and Adam Carriker are athletic DTs who can get after the QB from the inside and Kelly Gregg is a big space eating run-stuffer. Plus, considering I have one of the best secondaries anyone could put together, that will help the pass rush since receivers won't be getting open easily. Any other questions?

Offense

QB Tom Brady
RB Frank Gore
RB Derrick Ward
WR Braylon Edwards
WR Kevin Walter
WR Devin Hester
LT Michael Roos
LG Todd Herremans
C
RG Jake Scott
RT David Stewart

Defense

DE Cullen Jenkins
NT Vince Wilfork
DE Corey Williams
OLB Osi Umenyiora
ILB James Farrior
ILB Barrett Ruud
OLB Calvin Pace
CB Terence Newman
CB Ellis Hobbs
FS Antoine Bethea
SS