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htismaqe 09-14-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6072097)
When you think about ways to use Mays, you almost need to think about how the Rams used Marshall Faulk. He's that versatile.

That's why I used the word "intriguing" before. In the right hands, he could be that shiny new toy that Marshall was for the Rams. You could find ways to use a guy like that that kind of defy conventional defensive thinking.

And like I said before, I do think this will eventually become necessary as NFL offenses evolve. As more and more college teams move to spread and option offenses, NFL offenses are going to be forced to adapt or there's simply not going to be enough players to draw from.

That being said, college defenses are starting to catch up and you're going to see more guys like this come along.

htismaqe 09-14-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6072313)
Look at the article I put up.

Yeah, that's crazy. I didn't know that. I've always looked at him as a pure safety.

Gadzooks 09-14-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 6072292)
He could potentially play WLB in a 4-3. But he could definitely be a nickel backer. No, he won't ever play LB in a 3-4, but he could play LB in other defensive schemes.

We both know his talents would be wasted at WLB.

htismaqe 09-14-2009 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 6072386)
We both know his talents would be wasted at WLB.

I personally think his talent would be wasted if you put him at any one position. I'd play him all over the place - wherever I thought he created the best matchup on any given down.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-14-2009 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 6072386)
We both know his talents would be wasted at WLB.

You don't just put him at Will, you use him like a defensive Marshall Faulk. You blitz with him, you use him as a nickel corner, you have him cover the deep middle, you use him on a TE or slot guy, you use him as a zone blitzer, whatever.

He's so athletic and so versatile that limiting him to one scheme is doing your team a disservice.

htismaqe 09-14-2009 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6072455)
You don't just put him at Will, you use him like a defensive Marshall Faulk. You blitz with him, you use him as a nickel corner, you have him cover the deep middle, you use him on a TE or slot guy, you use him as a zone blitzer, whatever.

He's so athletic and so versatile that limiting him to one scheme is doing your team a disservice.

+1

ILChief 09-14-2009 08:42 PM

Mays and Berry are both fine players. If I had my choice we'd draft Russell Okung and move Albert to the right. Albert is a serviceable left tackle but not an elite one. He'd be a helluva right tackle. Then our O line looks a lot better and we can actually move the ball and give out QBs time.

DaKCMan AP 09-14-2009 08:45 PM

From everything I've seen Mays is an athletic freak whereas Berry is a playmaker who's always around the ball.

Nightfyre 09-14-2009 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 6072793)
Mays and Berry are both fine players. If I had my choice we'd draft Russell Okung and move Albert to the right. Albert is a serviceable left tackle but not an elite one. He'd be a helluva right tackle. Then our O line looks a lot better and we can actually move the ball and give out QBs time.

Good god. You took a perfectly good thread about drafting once in a generation safety talent and turned it into another truefan draft-a-lineman-#1-overall-when you-have-your franchise-lt-already thread.
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ILChief 09-14-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 6072830)
Good god. You took a perfectly good thread about drafting once in a generation safety talent and turned it into another truefan draft-a-lineman-#1-overall-when you-have-your franchise-lt-already thread.
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ha. i doubt either of them are "once in a lifetime" and Albert is far from a franchise LT.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-14-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6072824)
From everything I've seen Mays is an athletic freak whereas Berry is a playmaker who's always around the ball.

That's because Mays doesn't play in the SEC.

RealSNR 09-14-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 6072793)
Mays and Berry are both fine players. If I had my choice we'd draft Russell Okung and move Albert to the right. Albert is a serviceable left tackle but not an elite one. He'd be a helluva right tackle. Then our O line looks a lot better and we can actually move the ball and give out QBs time.

No.

htismaqe 09-14-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 6072793)
Mays and Berry are both fine players. If I had my choice we'd draft Russell Okung and move Albert to the right. Albert is a serviceable left tackle but not an elite one. He'd be a helluva right tackle. Then our O line looks a lot better and we can actually move the ball and give out QBs time.

We could make our line look better, move the ball, and give our QB's time without spending another 1st round pick on a tackle...

ILChief 09-14-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 6072850)
No.

Yes.

ILChief 09-14-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 6072851)
We could make our line look better, move the ball, and give our QB's time without spending another 1st round pick on a tackle...

Well, we could improve our safeties who arent that bad to begin with without drafting another one in the first. I'd rank safety near the bottom of our needs. We need offensive linemen, wide receivers, pass rushers, and a nose tackle MUCH more than a safety.


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