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pr_capone 09-14-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dshyne101 (Post 6073123)
come on man that line was absolutely bad there is no way LJ could do anything with that line blockin like that..

It does not help his cause when, for example in the middle of the 3rd quarter, he gets a 4 yard gain off a run outside the right tackle.

Instead of putting his shoulder down and fighting for a few extra yards, shit... even perhaps breaking a tackle, he merely runs out of bounds while taking a shove in the ribs.

Line of no line, the guy runs with no heart. I miss the days when he would put his shoulder down and smack a defender while gaining an extra yard or two.

That said, he is still our best option at RB but he is a flickering shadow of his former self.

DaneMcCloud 09-14-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 6073345)
It does not help his cause when, for example in the middle of the 3rd quarter, he gets a 4 yard gain off a run outside the right tackle.

Instead of putting his shoulder down and fighting for a few extra yards, shit... even perhaps breaking a tackle, he merely runs out of bounds while taking a shove in the ribs.

Line of no line, the guy runs with no heart. I miss the days when he would put his shoulder down and smack a defender while gaining an extra yard or two.

That said, he is still our best option at RB but he is a flickering shadow of his former self.

Dude, he's DONE.

There's NO gas left in the tank.

In 2006, he set the single season record for most touches.

In 2007, he was injured for 8 games (and the Chiefs lost every game).

In 2008, he was suspended and didn't get to 1,000 yards.

He'll be 30 soon.

He is DONE.

chiefzilla1501 09-14-2009 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dshyne101 (Post 6073123)
come on man that line was absolutely bad there is no way LJ could do anything with that line blockin like that..

I agree with you. LJ doesn't need monster holes, but he's not the type of back that can do anything when he's constantly hit in the backfield. Lots of good backs, like Shaun Alexander, who were the same way.

Reerun_KC 09-14-2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6073405)
I agree with you. LJ doesn't need monster holes, but he's not the type of back that can do anything when he's constantly hit in the backfield. Lots of good backs, like Shaun Alexander, who were the same way.

He isnt going to make a small hole any bigger... Dude has his money.. Its over...

milkman 09-14-2009 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6073405)
I agree with you. LJ doesn't need monster holes, but he's not the type of back that can do anything when he's constantly hit in the backfield. Lots of good backs, like Shaun Alexander, who were the same way.

LJ isn't constantly getting hit in the backfiled.

He does, however, constantly run right up O-Linemen's asses.

Hootie 09-14-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6073392)
Dude, he's DONE.

There's NO gas left in the tank.

In 2006, he set the single season record for most touches.

In 2007, he was injured for 8 games (and the Chiefs lost every game).

In 2008, he was suspended and didn't get to 1,000 yards.

He'll be 30 soon.

He is DONE.

I don't know if you're joking or not...

but if he were on a team with a decent line, I truly think he could be a 4.4 (YPC) 1100 yard guy...

but that's just my opinion

pr_capone 09-14-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6073450)
LJ isn't constantly getting hit in the backfiled.

He does, however, constantly run right up O-Linemen's asses.

I've said it 23 times and I'll say it again.

His legs stop moving the second contact is made. That is the single biggest sin any RB can commit aside from fumbling.

No vision and no heart.

I hope they put him on the trade block before week 6 and pray they get a 3rd.

Should have shipped him off to GB when we had the chance.

:cuss: Dammit Carl!

Hammock Parties 09-14-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6073483)
I don't know if you're joking or not...

but if he were on a team with a decent line, I truly think he could be a 4.4 (YPC) 1100 yard guy...

but that's just my opinion

Of course he can.

He proved that last year.

Our line is absolute dogshit.

LJ is far from the worst player on offense. Yet that's what people here make him out to be.

HotRoute 09-14-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinny Blues (Post 6073035)
If LJ has guaranteed money now, isn't he headed for the bench anyway?

Just sayin'

Dinny

Ya just ask matt lienhart about his garaunteed money . Haley has been pretty up front about playin the players that will give the chiefs the best chance to win. One reason why I'm startin to buy into his method of thinking.

DaneMcCloud 09-14-2009 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6073483)
I don't know if you're joking or not...

but if he were on a team with a decent line, I truly think he could be a 4.4 (YPC) 1100 yard guy...

but that's just my opinion

I'm not joking. I liked LJ as the Chiefs running back. I didn't care about all the off-field stuff and the KC hate. That doesn't affect me at all.

But what I see is a guy with too much tread on the tires. He looks tentative. He slips all too often. He doesn't run with power and is often taken down with as little as a hand.

He's just not the same guy he was in 2006 or even 2008.

With that being said, he's still the Chiefs best RB.

Age is as bitch.

Hootie 09-14-2009 10:20 PM

Meh...I never saw him as a power back...he was always better when he got to the 2nd level...where he was truly scary...problem is...he has no way of getting to the 2nd level with this god damn OL.

DaneMcCloud 09-14-2009 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6073556)
Meh...I never saw him as a power back...he was always better when he got to the 2nd level...where he was truly scary...problem is...he has no way of getting to the 2nd level with this god damn OL.

At this point in his career, LJ need to be on a team running a zone-blocking scheme.

His vision has never particularly been good. It absolutely pales in comparision to a guy like Priest Holmes or Marcus Allen. But in a zone scheme, there would be obvious holes for him to hit.

Right now, there's nothing.

And without that, even a for split second, his game suffers.

beach tribe 09-15-2009 12:37 AM

Lj Looks like he just wants to collect the rest of his money and retire. He doesn't give a ****.

If he gets hurt, he won't be able to collect the same amount of dough.

Hammock Parties 09-15-2009 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 6074386)
Lj Looks like he just wants to collect the rest of his money and retire. He doesn't give a ****.

Look at his blocking.

salame 09-15-2009 12:53 AM

he has always been an awful blocker remember when he got trent green killed


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