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soundmind 09-17-2009 10:33 AM

It's a thought, they're the only team I can remember in a LONG time if ever, that has two rookies starting at WR. That's a big piece of why Miller is such a big piece, the other two guys are still adjusting for a certain percentage of the game. I could definitely see that happening if he proves to be a problem.

On that note, if the game is in JaFat's chubby fingers, I feel good about where we're sitting....

Buehler445 09-17-2009 10:35 AM

Is there any chance they see what the Ravens did and come out slinging? We can only hope.
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Chiefnj2 09-17-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6081126)
You didn't answer the question.

I don't think one threat is bigger than the other if KC can't pressure the QB.

Chiefnj2 09-17-2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6081151)
What you say makes sense. I just wonder if we take Miller away how lost Russell would look...kind of like Thigpen looked after Gonzo was traded. Lost and throwing to the other team. Thanks for the answer.

Or, he can just dump it to McFadden and see if KC's LBs can keep up.

Mr. Laz 09-17-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 6081220)
It's a thought, they're the only team I can remember in a LONG time if ever, that has two rookies starting at WR. That's a big piece of why Miller is such a big piece, the other two guys are still adjusting for a certain percentage of the game. I could definitely see that happening if he proves to be a problem.

On that note, if the game is in JaFat's chubby fingers, I feel good about where we're sitting....

Which brings us back to the 4-4

pull the strong safety and add another Dlineman on running downs to try and force the game in to Russell's hands ... err ... arm. :)

A few 3 and outs or a Russell interception, on 3rd and long, when the faiders are deep in their own territory could really get the game rolling in our favor.

ChiefGator 09-17-2009 10:55 AM

Weren't we practicing a 5-3-3 or 5-2-4 or something in camp alot?

Mr. Laz 09-17-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6081287)
I don't think one threat is bigger than the other if KC can't pressure the QB.

I couldn't disagree more, the Faiders clearly want to run the ball 1st and have made that their strength. Take away the run and the faiders lose.

CaliforniaChief 09-17-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6081310)
I couldn't disagree more, the Faiders clearly want to run the ball 1st and have made that their strength. Take away the run and the faiders lose.

I agree with this, but you have to take Miller out of the equation. If the Raiders don't have the run and he doesn't have his pacifier to turn to, he's gonna start slinging it to the WR's. Game, set, match, Chiefs.

Chiefnj2 09-17-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6081310)
I couldn't disagree more, the Faiders clearly want to run the ball 1st and have made that their strength. Take away the run and the faiders lose.

That's what people said last week. Take away the run and make Flacco try to beat us. He's only a game manager...

I realize Russel isn't Flacco, but without pressure even Jamarcus is going to find open receivers.

Mr. Laz 09-17-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 6081303)
Weren't we practicing a 5-3-3 or 5-2-4 or something in camp alot?

We moved guys around alot but i don't want either of those setups.

5-3-3 allows too many huge runs if they break through the 5 Dlineman.

5-2-4 softens the middle of the field too much, which is where the faiders try and pound the ball.

4-4-3 lets you clog the line of scrimmage but still have a few linebacking corp to fill the holes and run sideline-to-sideline. The question is whether we can contain the deep passing game with only 3 in our secondary.

Mr. Laz 09-17-2009 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6081325)
I agree with this, but you have to take Miller out of the equation. If the Raiders don't have the run and he doesn't have his pacifier to turn to, he's gonna start slinging it to the WR's. Game, set, match, Chiefs.

with 4 linebackers still in the game, we can still clog the short passing routes. we can still blitz as well... run blitz or pass blitz.

Our defensive strength is our corners, the faiders offensive weakness is at wide receiver. We need to try and make that work for us.

T-post Tom 09-17-2009 11:06 AM

Fargas, Bush & McFadden are the strength of their offense by far. I like Laz's idea.


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