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DeezNutz 09-28-2009 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6118910)
Dude, get this through your head, Thigpen was INACTIVE. As in NOT DRESSED, CANNOT PLAY.

Can the emergency QB play, pete? Yes or no? Is this possible?

petegz28 09-28-2009 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6118913)
At least Herm was smart enough to let Gailey run with the pistol when he realized the offense was a complete mess.

And everyone cried that we were running the pistol and not a "real" offense.

DeezNutz 09-28-2009 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6118912)
As I understand it, he was not dressed and not able to play. I could be wrong.

ROFL

GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD, huh? Oops.

petegz28 09-28-2009 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6118918)
ROFL

GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD, huh? Oops.

The whole basis of your argument is stupid to begin with. Put in our 3rd string QB to make some weak attempt at beating a team that is kicking the living shit out of us because we can't run for more than 3 yards a half.

Chiefnj2 09-28-2009 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6118917)
And everyone cried that we were running the pistol and not a "real" offense.

The whining was misplaced as it put the team in the best position to attempt to win.

DeezNutz 09-28-2009 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6118921)
The whole basis of your argument is stupid to begin with. Put in our 3rd string QB to make some weak attempt at beating a team that is kicking the living shit out of us because we can't run for more than 3 yards a half.

You've distorted my point. And this wasn't the whole basis of my argument.

My claim was this: try.

And I've said, repeatedly and in this very thread, that I wouldn't have pulled Cassel. However, HOWEVER, if you're that worried about him getting killed, which shouldn't be a concern, put in someone else.

Croyle, Thigpen, whoever. This was an ancillary point, not the basis of anything.

Try. I expect the coach to try.

SenselessChiefsFan 09-28-2009 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6118921)
The whole basis of your argument is stupid to begin with. Put in our 3rd string QB to make some weak attempt at beating a team that is kicking the living shit out of us because we can't run for more than 3 yards a half.

But it does affect the credibility of your other arguments, when you have no idea that the third QB is usually inactive and is considered the emergency QB.... and is available upon the injury of the starting QB.

When he comes in though, it means that the starter cannot come back in the game.

petegz28 09-28-2009 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6118927)
The whining was misplaced as it put the team in the best position to attempt to win.

I agree. I argued it helped our O-line just as much if not more than Thiggy. Of course the resident experts said that was wrong.

DeezNutz 09-28-2009 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6118932)
But it does affect the credibility of your other arguments, when you have no idea that the third QB is usually inactive and is considered the emergency QB.... and is available upon the injury of the starting QB.

When he comes in though, it means that the starter cannot come back in the game.

Thigpen was inactive, as in he couldn't play. How can you not understand that?

petegz28 09-28-2009 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6118930)
You've distorted my point. And this wasn't the whole basis of my argument.

My claim was this: try.

And I've said, repeatedly and in this very thread, that I wouldn't have pulled Cassel. However, HOWEVER, if you're that worried about him getting killed, which shouldn't be a concern, put in someone else.

Croyle, Thigpen, whoever. This was an ancillary point, not the basis of anything.

Try. I expect the coach to try.

Try for what? What were trying for?

DeezNutz 09-28-2009 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6118943)
Try for what? What were trying for?

Are you kidding me?

Let's forfeit this weekend. I see no other choice.

Bearcat 09-28-2009 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6118897)
I agree with all of this.

It's possible to think that Haley made a huge mistake yesterday without thinking the guy will be a failure as a HC. But I'm not going to ty to bullshit a positive out of yesterday, either.

Exactly.... and like you alluded to before, when Herm did the same conservative stuff, some people hated it, and other people said "what do you want him to do, throw 40 yards down field every play and kill the QB?"... then I would reply "no, stupid, but something to get the 14 guys out of the box would be nice".

Maybe I want to like Haley a lot more than I want to like Herm, but come on...

Whitlock is right... next week, let's come up with a gameplan that resembles trying to win. We aren't a DI-AA team that's just happy to be on the big stage.

petegz28 09-28-2009 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6118946)
Are you kidding me?

Let's forfeit this weekend. I see no other choice.

I get it, we should get our QB's killed to satisfy an urge that would ultimately lead us to no where anyway.


We couldn't block, PERIOD.

DeezNutz 09-28-2009 08:21 AM

"With him doing what he did, I think he did lose a lot of confidence from the players."

"Players are like, 'What are you doing?'"

"It was mind boggling."

"It's killing the guys in the locker room."

Eddie Kennison on 810 talking about the play calling in the second half.

CoMoChief 09-28-2009 08:22 AM

When you're down by a couple scores in the second half, in our case it was more. You have to throw the football and move the chains. Not run it 3rd n long and let the clock continue to run down. You need points. We weren't running anywhere to begin with. They were stopping LJ before he made it back to the LOS. What good is running the ball then giving Philly the ball back when we punt.

I understand we don't have any talent on the Oline except on the left side, and they've even been suspect this season so far. The Oline obviously limits what the offense can do. I undstand that and Haley knows that and commented on it in the presser. Having that said the way we approached the game in the 2nd half is NOT acceptable. We'd all be calling for Herm's head had he done that. But it's ok for Haley to do it?


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