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raybec 4 10-05-2009 02:47 PM

9 of 51 on third down is ****ing horrible. how in the blue **** can you call yourself an offensive coach when you can't fall ass first into 25% of your third down conversions.

DaneMcCloud 10-05-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 6142046)
Good analysis OTW. Third Down futility had a lot to with replacing Gonzo with shit on a ****ing shingle.

I was telling someone yesterday, that I had no idea why Pioli and Haley didn't go get some different starters.
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This entire first quarter of the season is sickening.

I sat here and watched dozens of forum members suck off Pioli and Haley, all the while pointing fingers at Josh McDaniels and the Denver Broncos.

Denver is 4-0, has seven new starters on defense and has given up a league low of 6.5 points per game on defense.

The Chiefs are 0-4, look like a freakin' disaster both offensively and defensively. Their defense has given up 28 points per game and is ranked 30th, just ahead of Cleveland and Detroit.

I don't know what the **** is going on at One Arrowhead Drive but if I'm Clark Hunt, I'm there first thing this morning demanding some answers.

Of course, I'm not Clark Hunt. He's in Dallas, counting his money.

raybec 4 10-05-2009 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6142074)
This entire first quarter of the season is sickening.

I sat here and watched dozens of forum members suck off Pioli and Haley, all the while pointing fingers at Josh McDaniels and the Denver Broncos.

Denver is 4-0, has seven new starters on defense and has given up a league low of 6.5 points per game on defense.

The Chiefs are 0-4, look like a freakin' disaster both offensively and defensively. Their defense has given up 28 points per game and is ranked 30th, just ahead of Cleveland and Detroit.

I don't know what the **** is going on at One Arrowhead Drive but if I'm Clark Hunt, I'm there first thing this morning demanding some answers.

Of course, I'm not Clark Hunt. He's in Dallas, counting his money.

And ****ing Mexican soccer players

DaneMcCloud 10-05-2009 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6141903)
IMPROVEMENT.

Most excellent post, Dude.

MOST excellent.

:thumb:

DaneMcCloud 10-05-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 6142080)
And ****ing Mexican soccer players

He's gay?

NTTATWWT

Just Passin' By 10-05-2009 03:07 PM

Last season:
Patriots lost Brady in the first game and had Cassel come in cold. That was followed by the Raiders, Falcons and Broncos.

This season:
Chiefs started their season against the Ravens. That was followed by the Raiders, Eagles and Giants.

In other words, the schedule broke much easier last season than it has so far this season. The Chiefs don't have Gonzalez and Bowe's been hurt. Despite that, the scoring is just about the same, at 65 points last season to 64 this season. The defense had surrendered 97 points through 4 games last season, and has surrendered 112 through 4 games this season. Unless people expect the Chiefs to be shut out by the Cowboys this week, this season's offense will surpass last season's offense in points scored, and everyone knew that the defense would have problems due to the switch from the 4-3 to the 3-4, the tougher schedule, and the lack of talent.

Also, for all the complaining people did about the team daring to lose against the Raiders, it lost to Oakland in K.C. last season, too.

TEX 10-05-2009 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6142074)
This entire first quarter of the season is sickening.

I sat here and watched dozens of forum members suck off Pioli and Haley, all the while pointing fingers at Josh McDaniels and the Denver Broncos.

Denver is 4-0, has seven new starters on defense and has given up a league low of 6.5 points per game on defense.

The Chiefs are 0-4, look like a freakin' disaster both offensively and defensively. Their defense has given up 28 points per game and is ranked 30th, just ahead of Cleveland and Detroit.

I don't know what the **** is going on at One Arrowhead Drive but if I'm Clark Hunt, I'm there first thing this morning demanding some answers.

Of course, I'm not Clark Hunt. He's in Dallas, counting his money.

This.

TEX 10-05-2009 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6142060)
Exactly. That is a huge difference.

You were in Herm's camp. Nothing you say counts. :p

Fish 10-05-2009 03:10 PM

Helluva thread OTWP. Pretty telling stats there..

L.A. Chieffan 10-05-2009 03:11 PM

Get over it

Chiefnj2 10-05-2009 03:12 PM

The Lions have a better 3rd down defense and more sacks than KC. Gunther laughs.

L.A. Chieffan 10-05-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6142152)
The Lions have a better 3rd down defense and more sacks than KC. Gunther laughs.

If matrix were here, he would laugh too

ToxSocks 10-05-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 6141988)
It would be interesting to see these numbers during Haley's 3rd year when he has been at the helm.

All these numbers tell me is that Haley has put up near identical numbers with an overhauled team in his first year compared to Herms team which had been 3 years in the making...

QFT

Lets also not forget the strength of schedule this year vs last year. And you also have to take into consideration that Herm was on the DECLINE with his team. They were getting progressivly worse each year. I wonder how Herm's team would look out there this season.

Buehler445 10-05-2009 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6142074)
This entire first quarter of the season is sickening.

I sat here and watched dozens of forum members suck off Pioli and Haley, all the while pointing fingers at Josh McDaniels and the Denver Broncos.

Denver is 4-0, has seven new starters on defense and has given up a league low of 6.5 points per game on defense.

The Chiefs are 0-4, look like a freakin' disaster both offensively and defensively. Their defense has given up 28 points per game and is ranked 30th, just ahead of Cleveland and Detroit.

I don't know what the **** is going on at One Arrowhead Drive but if I'm Clark Hunt, I'm there first thing this morning demanding some answers.

Of course, I'm not Clark Hunt. He's in Dallas, counting his money.

I had a minor meltdown, check that, I MELTED THE **** DOWN last night when I heard the Donko ****s beat the Cowgirls. IIRC, I was talking to Reerun, but seriously. Their defense was on par with ours last year, they spend much fewer picks than we do, and they're the 4th best Defense currently? ****ing how? Do they even have a nose tackle? WTF?

The only thing I can think of is that Dumerville provides enough of a passrush to mask some of their holes (I recognize they played Cleveland, which helps them out).

Offensively, I thought they would be average. A good OL and WR corps with a non-reeruned QB will get you average.

I'm surprised as hell about their D though. I just don't ****ing get it.
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dirk digler 10-05-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6142131)
Last season:
Patriots lost Brady in the first game and had Cassel come in cold. That was followed by the Raiders, Falcons and Broncos.

This season:
Chiefs started their season against the Ravens. That was followed by the Raiders, Eagles and Giants.

In other words, the schedule broke much easier last season than it has so far this season. The Chiefs don't have Gonzalez and Bowe's been hurt. Despite that, the scoring is just about the same, at 65 points last season to 64 this season. The defense had surrendered 97 points through 4 games last season, and has surrendered 112 through 4 games this season. Unless people expect the Chiefs to be shut out by the Cowboys this week, this season's offense will surpass last season's offense in points scored, and everyone knew that the defense would have problems due to the switch from the 4-3 to the 3-4, the tougher schedule, and the lack of talent.

Also, for all the complaining people did about the team daring to lose against the Raiders, it lost to Oakland in K.C. last season, too.

Yep.

I have come to the conclusion though by listening to Haley's comments yesterday and observing Pioli and Clark Hunt chatting it up and laughing and joking yesterday for about 30 minutes that there is little or no pressure to win this season. Haley's comments reinforce that when it says they are still evaluating players that this year is more like extended pre-season.


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