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htismaqe 10-06-2009 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6145348)
The right 53.

Is overblown.

Our best WR so far wasn't even on the team during training camp.

It's just a testament to how far this franchise has fallen.

Hammock Parties 10-06-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6145368)
Lawrence was supposedly a 4.40 runner, Terrence Copper a 4.46 and Bradley a 4.36 at the combine.

On paper/on the track they have some speed.

Copper and Lawrence are special teams players for now. Their speed is useless on offense (apart from end arounds).

Bradley is about as much a deep threat as another supposedly "fast" guy - Samie Parker.

htismaqe 10-06-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6145368)
Lawrence was supposedly a 4.40 runner, Terrence Copper a 4.46 and Bradley a 4.36 at the combine.

On paper/on the track they have some speed.

Speed on the field, in pads, is as much about the head as it is the legs.

Hootie 10-06-2009 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6145363)
<del>Unfortunately, no one brought this up as a concern in the offseason. How were we to know?</del>

here come the know-it-alls

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-06-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac (Post 6145393)
here come the know-it-alls

Oh no, someone is going to interrupt my brunch of ignorance, because if I hope that the Chiefs are good, and just implicitly trust people who are in the organization because they're Chiefs, somehow, they'll be good.

It's no one's fault but your own that you're a ****ing idiot. Remember that.

htismaqe 10-06-2009 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6145400)
Oh no, someone is going to interrupt my brunch of ignorance, because if I hope that the Chiefs are good, and just implicitly trust people who are in the organization because they're Chiefs, somehow, they'll be good.

It's no one's fault but your own that you're a ****ing idiot. Remember that.

Having hope does not implicitly make one an idiot. Remember that.

bowener 10-06-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6145182)
Per Greg Easterbrook TMQ: "Matt Cassel, who recently signed one of the richest contracts in football history, averaged 2.4 yards per pass attempt on 32 throws."

Wow, that's horrible. If a receiver were to catch a ball on the LOS and just fall down (body extended) they'd pick up 2 yards. Haley might want to work on longer pass patterns.

This is kind of blown out of proportion. Maybe 4 years ago ths is true, but now, this is pretty average for a starter, and under the average for starting QB's if I had to guess.

FringeNC 10-06-2009 12:27 PM

Given our offensive line handicap and no separation from the WRs, Haley is going to have to spread the field like Gailey did, I think.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-06-2009 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 6145427)
Having hope does not implicitly make one an idiot. Remember that.

Showing a consistent pattern of support regardless of merit and only because of title does. Remember that.

DaWolf 10-06-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 6145530)
Given our offensive line handicap and no separation from the WRs, Haley is going to have to spread the field like Gailey did, I think.

This is what is strange to me. Haley came in saying that he was all about using whatever would utilize the talents of the players, yet his actions have shown him to be more about trying to implement a "mentality" and trying to pound square pegs in round holes...

DeezNutz 10-06-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 6145427)
Having hope does not implicitly make one an idiot. Remember that.

I'm all for hope.

But while I'm hoping, I like to embrace as much evidence as possible to analyze the situation...because there's nothing hopeful about getting ****ed by Leonardo DePioli on the Titanic.

htismaqe 10-06-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6145554)
Showing a consistent pattern of support regardless of merit and only because of title does. Remember that.

We're not talking about hope for the human race, or hope that there is a God.

We're talking about the hope that a football team can win a few games and maybe win a championship.

Showing a consistent pattern of support, regardless of merit, could merely mean that the hoper (is that a word?) doesn't view football through the same critical lense that he does other things.

htismaqe 10-06-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6145569)
I'm all for hope.

But while I'm hoping, I like to embrace as much evidence as possible to analyze the situation...because there's nothing hopeful about getting ****ed by Leonardo DePioli on the Titanic.

Me too.

But when the evidence is overwhlelmingly negative, we're left with a couple of choices.

For me, not being a Chiefs fan just isn't an option.

DeezNutz 10-06-2009 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 6145582)
Me too.

But when the evidence is overwhlelmingly negative, we're left with a couple of choices.

For me, not being a Chiefs fan just isn't an option.

:thumb:

Mr. Laz 10-06-2009 01:07 PM

Everyone said we didn't have the talent last year either until Gailey switch up the systems. Then our offense suddenly became average.

You can "make do" and not be sucking shit like we are now.


Haley is overwhelmed ... hopefully he will settle down and improve, then this offseason we can get a QB coach and another offensive coach to help Haley run the offense.


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