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DumbHillbillies 10-19-2009 01:51 PM

I'm not a big haley supporter but if this is true and he really was sincere then I like it. It's time for bowe to get his sh*t together and be the pro bowl player he can be. Stop dropping balls and playing bitch in the middle or I'm going to get rid of your ass.

Sully 10-19-2009 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 6187915)
Ha ha... Why would this not surprise me?

I bet Haley would rape a player's mother if it resulted in motivation....

"I could find 22 guys off the street who could **** your mother better than that!!!"

JD10367 10-19-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6187949)
How many times would it take for your boss to threaten your job before you quit taking him seriously? Or lose all respect for him?

If I wasn't in a tenured position (e.g. MLB with a guaranteed contract)? And I made millions to play a game? And the guy making the threat had the power to make me move across the country and play with a whole new bunch of guys I might not like, in a place that might suck even more? I think I'd take him pretty seriously.

TheGuardian 10-19-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6187949)
How many times would it take for your boss to threaten your job before you quit taking him seriously? Or lose all respect for him?

When Bowe makes big plays Haley is the first guy there to congratulate him. You really think Haley is just breaking his foot off in Bowe's ass 24/7 without SOME positive feedback in there too? Hardly.

Either way some of you on here sound like tampax when it comes to Haley. I've never heard so much complaining about a guy that you don't have to work for/with that seems to have the respect and admiration of his players. Sheesh.

kysirsoze 10-19-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6187939)
Look, I am a huge supporter of Haley, and have been this season.

However, threatening to trade a player in the middle of the game, especially then that is your best player is junior high shit.

He has been riding Bowe's ass for how long now? At a certain point his "threats" will ring hollow and everything he says will go in one ear and out the other.

I honestly don't believe that he really did this in the middle of the game, because this is how you lose players.

Anyone who thinks Cassel is playing scared could probably attribute to Cassel being yelled at everytime he walks off the field as well. There is something to be said about building your players' confidence as well as coaching mistakes.

But the point is none of us are there with the team. Regardless of all the articles we read, we don't know the dynamics of his relationships with his players. All I've seen all year supports the idea that he has the respect of that team. His relationship with Bowe seems especially strong. So if we think it's stupid to threaten a trade or bench him for effect, it does not matter. If it works it works.

To be clear, I don't think this happened. But if it did, good for Haley to know what Bowe needed to hear, and I like hearing that Bowe was motivated to remain a Chief.

OnTheWarpath15 10-19-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 6187960)
If I wasn't in a tenured position (e.g. MLB with a guaranteed contract)? And I made millions to play a game? And the guy making the threat had the power to make me move across the country and play with a whole new bunch of guys I might not like, in a place that might suck even more? I think I'd take him pretty seriously.

After 4 months, I honestly doubt it.

kysirsoze 10-19-2009 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6187949)
How many times would it take for your boss to threaten your job before you quit taking him seriously? Or lose all respect for him?

Probably more than one.

doomy3 10-19-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6187964)
When Bowe makes big plays Haley is the first guy there to congratulate him. You really think Haley is just breaking his foot off in Bowe's ass 24/7 without SOME positive feedback in there too? Hardly.

Either way some of you on here sound like tampax when it comes to Haley. I've never heard so much complaining about a guy that you don't have to work for/with that seems to have the respect and admiration of his players. Sheesh.

I haven't seen much hate on Haley at all. In fact, this is the first negative thing I have ever said about him, and that is if this is even a true report.

I just think that you are seeing some players (Cassel, Bowe) play tight as he is constantly riding their asses. It's good to have that, but if it is all the time, it will get old.

the Talking Can 10-19-2009 01:55 PM

you guys are hilarious, it's like a bunch of girls sitting around "discussing" the latest episode of "The Hills"


"OMG, did you hear what Brody said to......"

MikeMaslowski 10-19-2009 01:56 PM

In high school, I missed a backside block during a game and my QB got killed. I did it again in practice... My coach grabbed me and pulled me back 5 feet, walked back to where he was standing, got in a 3 point stance and fucking charged and smoked the piss out of me. I never forgot to block backside again. And the guy was in his 50's. I like tough coaches. I like Haley.

doomy3 10-19-2009 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 6187966)
But the point is none of us are there with the team. Regardless of all the articles we read, we don't know the dynamics of his relationships with his players. All I've seen all year supports the idea that he has the respect of that team. His relationship with Bowe seems especially strong. So if we think it's stupid to threaten a trade or bench him for effect, it does not matter. If it works it works.

To be clear, I don't think this happened. But if it did, good for Haley to know what Bowe needed to hear, and I like hearing that Bowe was motivated to remain a Chief.

Fair enough.

Do you think he is coaching Cassel the right way?

No support for him during training camp, extremely conservative playcalling, multiple heated exchanges on the sidelines, and constantly yelling and rolling his eyes when Cassel makes a mistake.

Buehler445 10-19-2009 01:58 PM

Hmmm don't really know what to think of that. I can't say I approve of this motivation tactic. If it was intentional.

However, it is possible it was taken out of context. Every coach gets pissed and says things they don't mean. I had a coach in high school that would ask us if we were deaf or just plain dumb. At one point he told us to respond with "neither, coach.". Point is that coaches say things they don't mean. My coach didn't think I was dumb (even though I was), but he said it anyway. And it wasn't just that comment. He'd say other things like "My wife's going to come after you because I'm going to pull my ****ing hair out and she doesn't like bald guys". He wasn't going to pull his hair out. Coaches rarely sit people on the bench forever, kill the refs, kick our ass so hard our grandma dies, or any of the other crap they yell when they are pissed off.

It's possible it was something like "Jesus Christ, Bowe. What the **** was that? That's the play of someone who wants to get traded" or something like that.

Or it could have been "get your head out of your ass or I'm trading you to Baltimore for a bag of K balls.". Who knows.

But if it was a legit threat Haley won't be in the league too long.
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Titty Meat 10-19-2009 01:58 PM

Kansas City is a big pussy town. Go Mark Teahen!

kysirsoze 10-19-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6187976)
you guys are hilarious, it's like a bunch of girls sitting around "discussing" the latest episode of "The Hills"


"OMG, did you hear what Brody said to......"

Isn't this basically what we do in every thread? Discuss something we saw someone else do on T.V.?

TheGuardian 10-19-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski (Post 6187979)
In high school, I missed a backside block during a game and my QB got killed. I did it again in practice... My coach grabbed me and pulled me back 5 feet, walked back to where he was standing, got in a 3 point stance and fucking charged and smoked the piss out of me. I never forgot to block backside again. And the guy was in his 50's. I like tough coaches. I like Haley.

Better be glad there weren't no CP parents who saw or heard about that. He'd be spending the final years of his life in jail.


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