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Mecca 10-26-2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 6210418)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/...uLYF?year=2008

that happened twice last year (under 5) with the patriots... whats your point... he had a crappy game...

Kyle Ortons 2006 5.1 average all year... 2008 6.4 averaqge all year... i guess he is a below average qb... his record in those years 22-8.

If Kyle Orton is our standard, this trade is a loser.

chiefzilla1501 10-26-2009 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6210419)
So...did you laugh at this stat line?

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I was wondering the same thing. Especially the 4.1 YPP.

Mecca 10-26-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6210425)
I've talked to several big Notre Dame fans who don't think Claussen will declare early. But who knows... If those guys are available, as strange as it sounds, I wonder if those guys should become your picks and then you dangle one of them as trade bait if Cassel does pan out.

I'm basically resided to the fact that Cassel is going to start here for atleast 3 or 4 years. Pioli is not going to admit he ****ed up that move in the snap of a finger.

Haley will get fired before they move on a QB.

Mecca 10-26-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6210429)
I was wondering the same thing. Especially the 4.1 YPP.

Hey still better than 3.9 right?

But like has been said before, so our 27 year old QB is either the same or marginally better than a rookie with a handful of starts, well whooptie ****in do.

carlos3652 10-26-2009 07:24 PM

I remember the Chicago Atlanta game from 2006, (my bro in law is a huge bears fan) - Chicago won 16-3 Ortons YPA was 1.2

SAUTO 10-26-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6210430)
I'm basically resided to the fact that Cassel is going to start here for atleast 3 or 4 years. Pioli is not going to admit he ****ed up that move in the snap of a finger.

Haley will get fired before they move on a QB.

again an assumption with nothing to base it on.... pioli is not an idiot, he left himself an out. just like in the bledsoe situation. sorry if you cant understand
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Mecca 10-26-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 6210442)
I remember the Chicago Atlanta game from 2006, (my bro in law is a huge bears fan) - Chicago won 16-3 Ortons YPA was 1.2

Are you trying to make some kind of point about how awful a QB can be?

chiefzilla1501 10-26-2009 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6210430)
I'm basically resided to the fact that Cassel is going to start here for atleast 3 or 4 years. Pioli is not going to admit he ****ed up that move in the snap of a finger.

Haley will get fired before they move on a QB.

I think you're selling Pioli a bit short. As much as I hate his croneyism to former Pats, he doesn't have a history of being overly loyal to underperforming players. This is a guy who basically wanted nothing to do with Ty Law and even Troy Brown unless they took significant pay cuts. I can't think of many examples where a Pats player stayed on that roster way longer than they deserved to.

Hopefully that hasn't changed. For now, I think he at least deserves a benefit of a doubt.

notorious 10-26-2009 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6210385)
The problem is that our running game demands NO respect, therefore the bootleg won't work. If we had a reasonably effective rushing attack we could run it more.

This is true. I would hope it would at least give our QB a chance. With this assembly of talent it probably doesn't matter anyway.

dirk digler 10-26-2009 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6210435)
Hey still better than 3.9 right?

But like has been said before, so our 27 year old QB is either the same or marginally better than a rookie with a handful of starts, well whooptie ****in do.

You should try being a little patient. I know it is easy to bash everything and expect quick results but this was never going to be a quick fix.

carlos3652 10-26-2009 07:27 PM

I just checked drew brees at 27 in 2006... a game vs the giants, they won 30-7... his ypa was 4.1... it happens...

carlos3652 10-26-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6210446)
Are you trying to make some kind of point about how awful a QB can be?

yes, and have a great record...

luv 10-26-2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6210435)
Hey still better than 3.9 right?

But like has been said before, so our 27 year old QB is either the same or marginally better than a rookie with a handful of starts, well whooptie ****in do.

You are so much easier to talk to when I agree with you.

DeezNutz 10-26-2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 6210419)
So...did you laugh at this stat line?

8.3 10 29 34.5 119 4.1 5
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Looks like a future HOFer.

kstater 10-26-2009 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 6210450)
I just checked drew brees at 27 in 2006... a game vs the giants, they won 30-7... his ypa was 4.1... it happens...


Eh, he plays in a spread, so you can expect him to have a slightly higher ypa.


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