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DaWolf 10-28-2009 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 6215073)
Rebuilding was essentially restarted when they decided to go 3-4 or bust. Up until that point, most of the rebuilding efforts on D had gone into the DLine. Pioli and Haley set the rebuilding back themselves when they decided they had to switch to a 3-4.

And the youth movement was really put on a back burner too. I hate to see that. All the old guys they brought it haven't served much purpose IMO.

Actually Gretz posted a piece a while back that showed this team was younger than they were last year (Tony G out, Donnie Edwards out, McIntosh out, etc)...

Marcellus 10-28-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6215010)

Great response. The insight and analysis are unbelievable. You have once again posted irrefutable proof to back your opinion of the situation.

Did you, Mecca, Dane, and OTWP sit around and color this with crayons? Did your moms make milk and cookies for you and set you down for a nap around 2:00pm?

Marcellus 10-28-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6215121)
Actually Gretz posted a piece a while back that showed this team was younger than they were last year (Tony G out, Donnie Edwards out, McIntosh out, etc)...

This is fact.

DeezNutz 10-28-2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6215134)
Great response. The insight and analysis are unbelievable. You have once again posted irrefutable proof to back your opinion of the situation.

Did you, Mecca, Dane, and OTWP sit around and color this with crayons? Did your moms make milk and cookies for you and set you down for a nap around 2:00pm?

LMAO. Keep the personal attacks coming, especially since I often direct them at you. Embarrassing.

"Irrefutable proof"? You must find just about every subject outside of mathematics pretty unconvincing. Absolutes, after all, are the hallmarks of effective argumentation.

2bikemike 10-28-2009 03:31 PM

IMHO Where Clark Screwed up is he let Herm and Peterson start the rebuild. They should have gutted everything at the same time and started from scratch. Instead they let Herm and Peterson screw up the start and now Pioli and Haley are digging out of their piss poor talent hole.

Sounds like presidential politics doesn't it?

Buehler445 10-28-2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 2bikemike (Post 6215176)
IMHO Where Clark Screwed up is he let Herm and Peterson start the rebuild. They should have gutted everything at the same time and started from scratch. Instead they let Herm and Peterson screw up the start and now Pioli and Haley are digging out of their piss poor talent hole.

Sounds like presidential politics doesn't it?

This.
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Marcellus 10-28-2009 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6215149)
LMAO. Keep the personal attacks coming, especially since I often direct them at you. Embarrassing.

"Irrefutable proof"? You must find just about every subject outside of mathematics pretty unconvincing. Absolutes, after all, are the hallmarks of effective argumentation.

No personal attacks, if you are going to insinuate we all live in a fairly tale land of imagined reality then you get a response.

We all have opinions. Some of us don't act like our opinion is the only reality.

Opinions are like assholes, sometimes they stink.

Buehler445 10-28-2009 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 6215073)
Rebuilding was essentially restarted when they decided to go 3-4 or bust. Up until that point, most of the rebuilding efforts on D had gone into the DLine. Pioli and Haley set the rebuilding back themselves when they decided they had to switch to a 3-4.

And the youth movement was really put on a back burner too. I hate to see that. All the old guys they brought it haven't served much purpose IMO.

I agree with the 3-4 piece, but am not so sure about the old guys. They were never anything more than stopgaps. Fortunately they are paid like it.

Hopefully they are providing some leadership and work ethic that other ineffective placeholders would not have. Before the homer flaming begins, I acknowledge that there is no way to tell, as all we have is the old ****ers.

I do wish they would have brought in SOME talent.
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DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 04:22 PM

I think it's hilarious that 99% of the time, Peter King is looked at a ****ing reerun around here yet if he writes something that people agree with, he's a genius.

Typical 'Planet.

DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6214333)
Which team will turn it around in 2010? My guess is Detroit and Kansas City have the best chances because they have what appear to be strong GMs, strong coaches and quarterbacks who look like they have a chance.

Here comes Mecca, Dane, OTWP and Deez Nutz to tell us this is all BS and the organization is a total bust at this point. Blah,blah,blah.

Any negative opinion article is quoted as fact and anything resembling a positive is regarded as BS.

The exact things being bitched about around here as the biggest mistakes are the 3 reasons PK thinks we have a chance to turn it around next year. Interesting.

LMAO

I hope you don't get a neck strain from constantly looking over your shoulder there, Sport.

DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6214739)
And it really depends on the outlook you take on it. There are many different ways to build an organization. You can say that Denver plugged in some holes and off they went, but if they lose in the first round again, did anything of significance really change?

Are you joking?

Denver has one the youngest teams in the league. They have a very but excellent offensive line, one premiere receiver and one very good receiver returner, an excellent rookie running back and a young, smart QB. They're set for years to come AND have more draft choices from the Chicago trade next year.

Not to mention that their defense is Top Five and you've got the makings of a very, very good Broncos teams for the foreseeable future.

DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6215121)
Actually Gretz posted a piece a while back that showed this team was younger than they were last year (Tony G out, Donnie Edwards out, McIntosh out, etc)...

So?

It won't matter a lick if they're young but untalented.

So far, none of the draft choices brought in by Pioli have made any type of impact, unlike last year where Flowers, Carr, Albert and Charles all made an immediate impact.

Reerun_KC 10-28-2009 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6214333)

Here comes Mecca, Dane, OTWP and Deez Nutz to tell us this is all BS and the organization is a total bust at this point. Blah,blah,blah.


ROFL

Tribal Warfare 10-28-2009 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6215337)
I think it's hilarious that 99% of the time, Peter King is looked at a ****ing reerun around here yet if he writes something that people agree with, he's a genius.

Typical 'Planet.



I'll admit that I'm giving Pioli the benefit of the doubt like others, but this King article and his "Cassel growing pains, and great QB" is a definite stroking of the patriots cock with a golden wash rang.

milkman 10-28-2009 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6215054)
Turk and Tank like the rest of Carls draft picks sucked dude.

I disagree.

Tank was showing flashes last year, and lined up next to Dorsey, who is making strides this year, in a 43, would have given us a solid interior, with a servicable Hali at LDE.

We needed a good RDE to line up with them, with Turk, who showed flashes even while playing in the wrong position, playing a pivitol role as depth.


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