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Suh over berry if he fell to us? (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=220750)

Bane	12-30-2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 6391563)

This seems like a complete waste of a statement. Its not as if you are Haley and are going to offend Romeo.

This is all that needs to be said. You don't pass up Suh's talent, even for Berry. Suh is everything. He is one bad mofo. I heard he was created in a lab by crossing the DNA of Darth Vader, Chuck Norris, Rocky Balboa and Jesus Christ. I could go on but the point is: if you have a chance at him you DO NOT f@ck that up.

Look at Detroit, they drafted an ass load of WR's in the 1st round: Charles Rogers, Mike Williams, Roy Williams, before they finally landed on CJ. Sometimes you just have to admit the mistake and move on. You can't move on if you're still trying to convince yourself that (____ player X) wasn't a mistake and even if they weren't a mistake anyway, you still don't pass up on the best player in the draft if they fall to you.

I can agree totally with not passing on a guy like Suh,but the same argument can be made for Berry.

The Bad Guy

12-30-2009 11:09 AM

Glenn Dorsey is not Charles Rogers and Tyson Jackson is not Mike Williams. These players can work in this system. That argument doesn't hold an ounce of water.

MOhillbilly

12-30-2009 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 6391518)

I'd like to see them go after a proven NT in FA and pick up Berry in the draft. If they did it the other way around I wouldn't be too upset as long as both positions are filled with actual NFL playmakers by September.

name a bona-fide 2 gap NT who will be available to us with no cba/cap in place.

Micjones

12-30-2009 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6391585)

I can agree totally with not passing on a guy like Suh,but the same argument can be made for Berry.

It could but which position is more significant to the overall success of the scheme?

Mr. Laz

12-30-2009 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 6391600)

name a bona-fide 2 gap NT who will be available to us with no cba/cap in place.

The CBA is a huge deal for us this year.

a new CBA will probably include a slotting system for the draft making our pick incredibly more valuable.

without a new CBA the FA period will probably suck which will make it doubly hard for crappy teams to acquire talent and easier on teams looking to keep their talent.

Demonpenz

12-30-2009 11:24 AM

I would say suh, I see a reggie white kind of inside outside passrusher game changer at the LOS

BigCatDaddy

12-30-2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6391607)

It could but which position is more significant to the overall success of the scheme?

It's funny how all of a sudden winning at the line of scrimmage became less important this year after pounding that drum the last 3 or 4.

petegz28

12-30-2009 11:25 AM

Berry>Suh in our defense.

petegz28

12-30-2009 11:25 AM

We need a fat ass that can take on a double-team in the middle of our line. Suh is not that.

Bane	12-30-2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6391607)

It could but which position is more significant to the overall success of the scheme?

IMO if we were starting from scratch I'd pick Suh,but I'd have to go with Berry from where we stand now.Honestly,I don't think either pick will be a mistake.

Micjones

12-30-2009 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6391635)

IMO if we were starting from scratch I'd pick Suh,but I'd have to go with Berry from where we stand now.Honestly,I don't think either pick will be a mistake.

I agree. That'll be a GREAT problem to have come draft day.
The possibility of trading down a slot or two intrigues me though cause we could still get Berry and add another #2.

A Golden Tate/Sergio Kindle/Brandon Spikes Round 2 would be insane...

Bane	12-30-2009 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 6391652)

I cant see us trading down @ 2 or 3 but I guess it could happen.I think we pick when its our turn.Too damn far away to really see how things will change between now and then.Hell Cj Spiller may be up in the top 10 by then and shake things up.

Mr. Laz

12-30-2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6391633)

We need a fat ass that can take on a double-team in the middle of our line. Suh is not that.

ratliff has been playing good at NT for Dallas, he's not either.

Ratliff 6'4" 303lbs
Suh 6'4" 300lbs

ToxSocks

12-30-2009 11:54 AM

I'd rather have Berry. ****, how much 1st rnd talent do we need on the D-Line? We need to spread the wealth man. we're going to have the most expensive D-line in the NFL, with only 3 guys playing on it.

And who wants to go though a 3rd straight year of "X-lineman is a bust in his first year". Im tired of hearing that shit. We'll just hear it again if we draft Suh.

But anywho....say we did draft Suh, would you be opposed to trading our two second rnd picks to move up and draft Mays?

Because if we could land Suh AND a top safety talent, well, that changes shit.

Micjones

12-30-2009 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6391664)

I think if they're both on the board we'll get at least a couple phone calls.
I wouldn't trade out of the Top 5 though.

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