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Bane 01-01-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6396065)
:D I'm working it! How about this one? Charlie Weis becomes our OC, and we take Clausen in the first and Golden Tate in the second. :)

So no one sees bringing in Weis as a slap in Haley's face? Trust me I definitely think we need a OC,but isn't that where Haley got all his hype and cred?Just seems like a step back for Haley to me,and Weis might eat him if he cusses at him on the sideline.ROFL

Mr_Tomahawk 01-01-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6396071)
ROFL

i bet Golden Tate gives Haley wood ... i'm talking mahogany, maybe teak.

Ipe.

Mr. Laz 01-01-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 6396074)
Ipe.

so which receiver would give Haley snakewood? :)

Mr_Tomahawk 01-01-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6396083)
so which receiver would give Haley snakewood? :)

eryngium yuccifolium :D

TheGuardian 01-01-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 6396015)
They didn't give him $60mil...He got something like $28mil and a contract worth $60mil. Big difference. After 2010 we can kick him to the curb if we wish. LOL I'm not on the Clausen bandwagon really but I don't think it would be totally out of the question if Pioli and his scouts think Clausen is truely a franchise QB for us to pick him.

PhilFree:arrow:

It doesn't matter if it's 60 mil or 28 mil. You're missing the big picture as a lot of people here are.

We gave up a 2nd rounder and a starters salary to Cassel JUST THIS PAST SEASON. WE AREN'T DRAFTING A QB IN FIRST ROUND.

Yes, it's out of the ****ing question. I'm not sure what it is about this that you and others aren't getting.

Fans are too MF'ing impatient. Fact is people saying dumb shit like "yes and this franchise will continue to suffer from it" have their heads shoved up their ass. These are the same reeruns that wanted to trade Dorsey this past offseason and already declared him a bust. Even if we did draft a QB if he wasn't playing like Manning by the end of the season they'd just declare him another bust.

And posting up highlights of college QB's throws is so galactically stupid it's hard to comprehend. Ryan Leaf has some bad ass college highlights too. Who gives a ****? In college guys are open by 5-10 yards. In the NFL guys are almost never that open. So it's irrelevant.

Chiefshrink 01-01-2010 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6396096)
It doesn't matter if it's 60 mil or 28 mil. You're missing the big picture as a lot of people here are.

We gave up a 2nd rounder and a starters salary to Cassel JUST THIS PAST SEASON. WE AREN'T DRAFTING A QB IN FIRST ROUND.

Yes, it's out of the ****ing question. I'm not sure what it is about this that you and others aren't getting.

Fans are too MF'ing impatient. Fact is people saying dumb shit like "yes and this franchise will continue to suffer from it" have their heads shoved up their ass. These are the same reeruns that wanted to trade Dorsey this past offseason and already declared him a bust. Even if we did draft a QB if he wasn't playing like Manning by the end of the season they'd just declare him another bust.

And posting up highlights of college QB's throws is so galactically stupid it's hard to comprehend. Ryan Leaf has some bad ass college highlights too. Who gives a ****? In college guys are open by 5-10 yards. In the NFL guys are almost never that open. So it's irrelevant.

Patience 'IS NOT' a virture with many of the planeteers here but keep the "common sense" coming. Until Cassel can have a time to make a 3 step drop without having a hand on him "NO QB" in the NFL does anybetter(including Brady,Brees and Manning). Does anybody really think those 3 would have done any better with this yr's Chiefs O-line and Chiefs receivers? Seriously???????

We need "TRENCH HELP" on both sides of the ball and at least 1 pair of good hands, PERIOD!!!!!!!

RustShack 01-01-2010 12:12 PM

Just like the Chargers aren't drafting Philip Rivers.

Coogs 01-01-2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 6396131)
Patience 'IS NOT' a virture with many of the planeteers here but keep the "common sense" coming. Until Cassel can have a time to make a 3 step drop without having a hand on him "NO QB" in the NFL does anybetter(including Brady,Brees and Manning). Does anybody really think those 3 would have done any better with this yr's Chiefs O-line and Chiefs receivers? Seriously???????

We need "TRENCH HELP" on both sides of the ball and at least 1 pair of good hands, PERIOD!!!!!!!

Yes I do. I would take Aaron Rodgers in a heartbeat over Cassel. And those two are nearly identical in every way as far as their career goes. Both have shitty O-lines. Rodgers>>>>>>Cassel

And I didn't see the Jets/Colts game, but IIRC, someone said the Colts O-line looked like swiss cheese whitout Manning at the controls.

TheGuardian 01-01-2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6396136)
Just like the Chargers aren't drafting Philip Rivers.

Talk about comparing an apples and orange scenario. They didn't know if Brees would even be playing the following season. So barring some kind of career ending injury to Cassel this weekend, we aren't taking a QB in the first round, if at all.

Second, Brees was not drafted by AJ Smith. So do your homework before posting some this stupid.

DaWolf 01-01-2010 12:16 PM

The Guardian is essentially saying that if Carl can give Elvis Grbac 4 years (and offer him an extension to boot, which he turned down which led to trading for Trent Green), while dumping what turned out to be the league MVP for him, then Pioli is going to give Cassel another year...

TheGuardian 01-01-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6396141)
Yes I do. I would take Aaron Rodgers in a heartbeat over Cassel. And those two are nearly identical in every way as far as their career goes. Both have shitty O-lines. Rodgers>>>>>>Cassel

And it's funny but Cassel put up great numbers last year when he had WR's that didn't drop the ball didn't he?

Again, I'm no Cassel fan, but anyone saying he sucks because of this season went full reerun.

milkman 01-01-2010 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 6396131)
Patience 'IS NOT' a virture with many of the planeteers here but keep the "common sense" coming. Until Cassel can have a time to make a 3 step drop without having a hand on him "NO QB" in the NFL does anybetter(including Brady,Brees and Manning). Does anybody really think those 3 would have done any better with this yr's Chiefs O-line and Chiefs receivers? Seriously???????

We need "TRENCH HELP" on both sides of the ball and at least 1 pair of good hands, PERIOD!!!!!!!

Cassel has has plenty of time to drop and make reads.

TheGuardian 01-01-2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6396149)
The Guardian is essentially saying that if Carl can give Elvis Grbac 4 years (and offer him an extension to boot, which he turned down which led to trading for Trent Green), while dumping what turned out to be the league MVP for him, then Pioli is going to give Cassel another year...

Sort of.

I'm saying that Pioli traded a 2nd rounder for him and gave him "28 million" just this past offseason. GM's, EVEN GOOD ONES, generally are in no hurry to admit a mistake or give up on a guy too soon. Cassel has shown that he CAN play at a high level, he just didn't behind a make shit line and throwing to WR's with concrete hands.

Coogs 01-01-2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6396154)
Cassel has has plenty of time to drop and make reads.

:thumb:

TheGuardian 01-01-2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6396154)
Cassel has has plenty of time to drop and make reads.

He has the last few weeks. The first 3/4ths of the season? Not so much.


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