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'Hamas' Jenkins

01-06-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 6417282)

OK, #1 Vermeil took the EAGLES to a superbowl and then won one with St Louis THEN came to KC.

Holmgren (as you stated) made it back to the superbowl... pretty damn good.

..and I notice three names missing...

Parcells, Shula and Reeves.

so, it looks about 50/50... which I am fine with saying that the argument holds no water... we are left to judge the coaches based on what they will/won't bring to the table NOW ...not any past garbage. (as a positive or negative)

Unfortunately, neither has been an OC/DC the last few years... so impossible to judge accurately... just guessing at this point.

We'll only KNOW the answer a few months into next season... maybe sooner if Weis is gonna run the exact same offense that Haley runs.

Past Superbowls do not translate into either good or poor performance the next time around. Period.

Wha??

Parcells never won a playoff game w/o Belichick. Not one. Despite having the same guys almost everywhere else wherever he went, he never replicated that success.

Dan Reeves wasn't calling the shots in Atlanta (Harold Richardson, a Reeves crony took over after the team was built and proceeded to destroy it), nor was Vermeil calling the shots in Philly or St. Louis. In fact, the area where Vermeil had the most input is where he had the least success: KC.

'Hamas' Jenkins

01-06-2010 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6417332)

Are Weis and Crennel not qualified enough for you Hamas? Holy Christ...

My expectations for next year? As of right now...

8-8

I don't think that Weis is a bad hire, nor did I ever claim he was. He's not at the top of my list, but he's not a panacea by any stretch of the imagination. Crennel, however is not a good hire. His defenses in Cleveland were shit, and he was basically a figurehead in New England. The only good thing about Crennel is that he does have a lot of time as a DL coach, and there's no way he could be any worse than Tim Krumrie.

What bothers me is what has always bothered me:

Out of all the coaching candidates, Charlie Weis and Romeo Crennel are the two that you pick. Out of all the players on waiver after cuts, Ryan O'Callaghan is the only one you pick.

You can't build a championship team from the scraps of a fallen dynasty, and yet Pioli seems to think that you can.

Where's the originality and the adaptability here?

FloridaMan88

01-07-2010 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 6417469)

My question is... can't we up grade our coaches AND talent? Why cry about upgrading our coaches now? We are so jaded as Chiefs fans we can't even appreciate what we have in front of us. Who gives a rip if we are bringing the band back together... it is a hell of a lot better than we have had in YEAAARRRSSS!

Btw, my expectations are also 8-8 next season.

We have in front of us a team that has won 10 games the past 3 seasons.

AustinChief

01-07-2010 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6417539)

Crennel, however is not a good hire. His defenses in Cleveland were shit, and he was basically a figurehead in New England. The only good thing about Crennel is that he does have a lot of time as a DL coach, and there's no way he could be any worse than Tim Krumrie.

I am not exactly sold on Crennel either... He was good in New England but crap in Cleveland as a DC and upon his return to Cleveland as a HC... they didn't exactly set the world on fire on D...

I also don't think we should be married to the Patriots 3-4.. I'd rather see a modified Phillips 3-4 ... which means I'd rather see a coach familiar with it...

I'd love Wade Phillips but he likely saved his job in Dallas...

Hammock Parties

01-07-2010 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6416607)

I think we all know which one Haley is.ROFL

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Oh my god, **** yes.

The 2010 Chiefs Highlight Film will be intro'd with the A-TEAM: Pioli, Haley, Weis and Crennel.

(note how I listed the black man last)

But yeah, Pioli is a bald Hannibal, Haley is Howling Mad Murdoch, Weis is a fattened up Face and Crennel is Jumbo Mr. T.

SO ****ING AWESOME.

tyler360

01-07-2010 12:29 AM

There is no way that anyone can predict already what our record is gonna be for next year already. That is a ridiculous guess at best.

kcxiv

01-07-2010 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6417154)

Another few could mean the differenece between seeing another Championship in our lifetime, or watching it from the hereafter.

i am ok though. I seen my Lakers win 6 titles and the dodgers one. Most people cant enjoy at least that in a life time. I would love to see the Chiefs win it all, but for me, it is whqt it is, i cant change anything. I could get all crazy like the thread starter, but for what? whats it going to accomplish? thats right. Nothing.

AustinChief

01-07-2010 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6417539)

Where's the originality and the adaptability here?

How would you feel if we hired Dat Nguyen as DC?

Young, smart, knows the 3-4...

I meant this originally as a joke... but now that I think about it...

DeezNutz

01-07-2010 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tyler360 (Post 6417931)

There is no way that anyone can predict already what our record is gonna be for next year already. That is a ridiculous guess at best.

I think expectations can definitely bet set, once Romeo is inked and the official NE reunion tour is launched.

Produce or get the **** out.

keg in kc

01-07-2010 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 6417954)

How would you feel if we hired Dat Nguyen as DC?

Young, smart, knows the 3-4...

I meant this originally as a joke... but now that I think about it...

....it's still a joke.

Taco John

01-07-2010 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 6417954)

How would you feel if we hired Dat Nguyen as DC?

Young, smart, knows the 3-4...

I meant this originally as a joke... but now that I think about it...

http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/44...0.400x451.jpeg

Do eet!

Hammock Parties

01-07-2010 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6417957)

I think expectations can definitely bet set, once Romeo is inked and the official NE reunion tour is launched.

Produce or get the **** out.

I'd say they need to make the playoffs by 2011.

Doing it next year would inspire a lot more confidence.

AustinChief

01-07-2010 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6417958)

....it's still a joke.

Hard to stomach an A&M playing, Cowboy coaching guy with a funny name... but the dude is smart as hell and I am at a loss to think of any AVAILABLE Phillips 3-4 guys... anyone else in the NFL playing a 1-gap 3-4 like the cowgirls?

OnTheWarpath15

01-07-2010 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6417990)

I'd say they need to make the playoffs by 2011.

Doing it next year would inspire a lot more confidence.

My original expectations were:

2009: 4-12

2010: 7-9

2011: 10-6 or 11-5 & win a playoff game

2012: Go very deep into the playoffs

That was before I realized that Pioli was going to grab every ex-Patriot swinging dick he could find.

These are ALL his people.

No excuses, now.

'Hamas' Jenkins

01-07-2010 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 6417993)

I mentioned one earlier today.

Reggie Herring

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