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kcxiv 01-08-2010 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 6425635)
Oh sh,t!! Did I mistype?

Oh yes I did. I'm gonna attempt to fix it, if it's not too late. Good catch tho.

I didnt even realize he had 2 a's in his name until a few days ago. You always have some bitch on this website trying to correct typings in names knowing god damn well that parents butcher spellings of names.

TigerPig 01-09-2010 12:03 AM

I would say the reason Charles is ranked higher than Johnson is because usually RBs who run as much and as hard as Johnson did have a mediocre next year.

I predict Johnson to get less than 1,500. I will totally admit I was a fool if I am indeed wrong, but it usually seems like after a year of greatness, there is a lull.

Charles, on the other hand didn't really have a good season. He had a good half of a season. This makes no sense I know, but it still is my prediction.

Sure-Oz 01-09-2010 12:08 AM

My girl called Jamaal Charles kicking ass once he started, she even started him in her fantasy league over mendenhall and tomlinson, ended up winning it all thanks to him, and i suggested to start mendenhall, good thing she doesnt listen.

Charles was a beast, he def. has proven me wrong. He was a warrior this year

BossChief 01-09-2010 12:17 AM

Put Jamaal behind the Titans line and he might have gone for the same or more yardage as CJ.

That is part of what makes me all giddy about his future here.

The other part is what I have been saying time and time again, he will only get stronger as a player after not lifting weights at Texas because of his affiliation with running track. Watch him in games as a rookie and then watch him this year and you will see a player that is much stronger.

Another part is the fact that we will surely upgrade at least two OL spots which will give him more opportunities to fulfill his potential.

The messed up part of that is Cassel not being able to properly stretch defenses because of his inability to be effective throwing mid to long range passes will allow defenders to crowd the line more instead of giving Jamaal more room to roam.

TigerPig 01-09-2010 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6425683)
Put Jamaal behind the Titans line and he might have gone for the same or more yardage as CJ.

That is part of what makes me all giddy about his future here.

The other part is what I have been saying time and time again, he will only get stronger as a player after not lifting weights at Texas because of his affiliation with running track.

Another part is the fact that we will surely upgrade at least two OL spots which will give him more opportunities to fulfill his potential

Do you worry about Charles having an LJ-like career? Or a Holmes-type, with just a few good seasons? Or do you think he'll have a long, productive career?

luv 01-09-2010 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig (Post 6425688)
Do you worry about Charles having an LJ-like career? Or a Holmes-type, with just a few good seasons? Or do you think he'll have a long, productive career?

I started really paying attention to football the last few years of Priest's career. How many good seasons did he have? I've yet to see any running back have more than a few years of being "hot".

BossChief 01-09-2010 12:32 AM

Charles career will/has followed Priests timeline. Ive been saying this since day one.

Hopefully this time around, a defender on steroids looking to head hunt a possible MVP candidate wont end his career.

I dont buy the idea that his body cant take the abuse one bit. He just needs to work on "getting small (which he does extremely well) and holding onto the ball" as my coach used to say. Watching JC run, you wouldnt think he was as tall as he is.

Jamaal Charles is nothing like LJ...everyone could see the LJ scenario coming.

I honestly see JC becoming Priest without the physicality but with breakaway speed. He can block and is becoming more effective in that area the stronger he gets, he is becoming a dangerous receiver as PH was after a couple years, he has Priests vision, his stiffarm, his spin move...etc. I see very similar players.

TigerPig 01-09-2010 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6425716)
I started really paying attention to football the last few years of Priest's career. How many good seasons did he have? I've yet to see any running back have more than a few years of being "hot".

This is what makes a RB a legend: Someone who can churn out multiple years of greatness.

This is why Marcus Allen is looked at with such admiration here. It broke my heart when he retired, even though I understood.

If you look at the greats: Sanders, Smith, Tomlinson, they're all great not for what they've done in one season, but what they've done for so many seasons year in and year out.

This is why I LAUGH when people say Terrell Davis should be considered for the HOF. How about 5 more years of what you were doing, and then we'll consider it.

luv 01-09-2010 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerPig (Post 6425724)
This is what makes a RB a legend: Someone who can churn out multiple years of greatness.

This is why Marcus Allen is looked at with such admiration here. It broke my heart when he retired, even though I understood.

If you look at the greats: Sanders, Smith, Tomlinson, they're all great not for what they've done in one season, but what they've done for so many seasons year in and year out.

This is why I LAUGH when people say Terrell Davis should be considered for the HOF. How about 5 more years of what you were doing, and then we'll consider it.

I'm most familiar with Tomlinson. I like him because he's so versatile. Rushing, receiving, blocking, and even passing.

One of my favorite RB's right now is Marion Barber. Not as versatile as Tomlinson, but just as dependable. I'm probably getting off the topic though...

TigerPig 01-09-2010 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6425738)
I'm most familiar with Tomlinson. I like him because he's so versatile. Rushing, receiving, blocking, and even passing.

One of my favorite RB's right now is Marion Barber. Not as versatile as Tomlinson, but just as dependable. I'm probably getting off the topic though...

This whole goddamn board is off-topic. That's why I like it here, its like a person with ADHD's dream come true! None of the threads talk about what the OP was, there's all sorts of random shit, and there's actually a thread in pics devoted to trying to determine what type of pube trim women have... THIS PLACE IS fuckING AWESOME!!!



BTW, I for one loved Barry Sanders. I admittedly didn't get to watch him play a lot. But I'd see him on Thanksgiving EVERY YEAR (I'd make sure to), and what he did was just amazing. Its hard to describe how awesome he was. People talk about him and you go, "yeah yeah," but then you see him and you get it. I'd TOTALLY youtube him cause it will blow your mind.

luv 01-09-2010 12:48 AM

SO, what makes a back a HOF worthy back? Yardage? Scoring? Versatility? Dependability? All of the above? Some of the above?

BossChief 01-09-2010 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6425757)
SO, what makes a back a HOF worthy back? Yardage? Scoring? Versatility? Dependability? All of the above? Some of the above?

all those things and then add in longevity

soundmind 01-09-2010 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6425757)
SO, what makes a back a HOF worthy back? Yardage? Scoring? Versatility? Dependability? All of the above? Some of the above?

I feel like 6+ years of dominance at RB is a considerable hurdle, and possibly what would seal it for me. I don't need records necessarily, and I think yardage and scoring are barometers, but not the end all be all. Game changing ability, endurance and in the case of a Barry Sanders, countless moments of jaw-dropping "what the shit did he just do....holy f*** he's gonna score" pretty much seal the deal.

jjjayb 01-09-2010 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Redrum_69 (Post 6425529)
LOL

LJ is at #56 on that list...

But....but...but.....It was the Line's fault. They're not making any holes for LJ. ROFL

Chiefaholic 01-09-2010 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 6425807)
I feel like 6+ years of dominance at RB is a considerable hurdle, and possibly what would seal it for me. I don't need records necessarily, and I think yardage and scoring are barometers, but not the end all be all. Game changing ability, endurance and in the case of a Barry Sanders, countless moments of jaw-dropping "what the shit did he just do....holy f*** he's gonna score" pretty much seal the deal.

I'de watch Detroit games JUST to watch Barry run. Defenders would have the perfect angel on him and Barry would turn on a dime while the defender grabbed a double arm full of air as Barry continued to gallop downfield. The guy was phenominal and would have easily owned every NFL rushing record had he not retired in his prime at the age of 28-29 (too lazy to google age).

But, some of what we saw in the Denver game with JC was very Berry'ish. Just when you think a defender had him....one juke and off to the races.


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