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Priest31kc 01-15-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 6447877)
I agree that he is best suited for a 3-4 ILB, which is another reason he is my favorite for #5. McClain and DJ would be a lot of athletic ability in the center of the defense. If they could get a capable NT in FA or round 2 then I would start to feel good about the heart of the defense.

Yep

Jackson-Rd 2/FA-Dorsey

Hali-McClain-DJ-Vrabel?

Flowers-Rd 2b-Page/Morgan-Carr

With Jackson being in his 2nd year, hopefully he makes strides, & it will be Dorsey's 2nd year as a DE, & we saw he made some strides already, & w/ Romeo coming in.....We just need a NT. McClain & DJ in the middle of the D, w/ a pass rusher in Hali on the outside. Flowers is a pro bowl type CB IMO, Carr is a good #2, we're fine @ CB especially if Washington can turn into a good nickel, he's got the skills. With this being a deep safety class, we can get a very good starter in the later 2nd rd. Maybe Page or Morgan who has alot of talent, can take over at the other spot, or maybe we get someone in FA.

TheGuardian 01-15-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Coater (Post 6447657)
He is big and has the speed. Or do yall think he just stays as a inside LB? I think he could be a nightmare for QB's 6'4 256lbs and fast. He could be a monster. Also keep in minde we have a good D cord. That could teach him along with Vrabel. Then we could try to sign a guy like Barret Rudd from the Bucs to play IMLB or draft one. Hopefully B.Spikes falls to the 2nd round. What do yall think, bash away.

Then here it comes.

The answer is no.

Why do you guys do this? I don't get some posters.

If a guy is an inside bad ass in college that generally transfers well to the pros because it's mostly an instinctive position like running back.

Pass rushing is somewhat of a "feel" thing because some guys can do it naturally, and others learn how to do it real well. But being "fast" has nothing to do with being a good outside linebacker. Lots of fast guy suck and lots of slow guys make pro bowls. Looking at measurables on a guy like height, weight, speed, and all that jazz doesn't really tell me anything about him or his best position. A good natural pass rusher tends to have good knee bend, long arms, and great hip flexibility. You don't need any of that to be a great inside or mike backer. Knee bend helps though.

Either way McClain is/should be an inside guy. If we need a guy to rush the passer from the outside along with Hali, draft one that did that in college or sign one that did that in the pros. Thanks and have a good night.

chiefzilla1501 01-15-2010 03:59 PM

A LB is at his best when the linemen keep blockers off their ass.

An OLB in a 3-4 has to be able to take on blockers and shed and tackle when he's on run defense.

This is an obvious no.

Titty Meat 01-15-2010 04:00 PM

This thread sucks

Red Coater 01-15-2010 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6448362)
This thread sucks

u suck too!!! It was just something to think about get over it. Shit what else is there to talk about?

Red Coater 01-15-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6448179)
Then here it comes.

The answer is no.

Why do you guys do this? I don't get some posters.

If a guy is an inside bad ass in college that generally transfers well to the pros because it's mostly an instinctive position like running back.

Pass rushing is somewhat of a "feel" thing because some guys can do it naturally, and others learn how to do it real well. But being "fast" has nothing to do with being a good outside linebacker. Lots of fast guy suck and lots of slow guys make pro bowls. Looking at measurables on a guy like height, weight, speed, and all that jazz doesn't really tell me anything about him or his best position. A good natural pass rusher tends to have good knee bend, long arms, and great hip flexibility. You don't need any of that to be a great inside or mike backer. Knee bend helps though.

Either way McClain is/should be an inside guy. If we need a guy to rush the passer from the outside along with Hali, draft one that did that in college or sign one that did that in the pros. Thanks and have a good night.

What posistion did Derrick Thomas come out as when he enter the draft, Was ILB orOLB or DE?

Chiefnj2 01-15-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Coater (Post 6448414)
What posistion did Derrick Thomas come out as when he enter the draft, Was ILB orOLB or DE?

DT was a LB at Alabama.

McClain is nothing like DT. Built completely different. He's not a guy that is going to have a great first step and explosion. He's not a pass rusher.

RustShack 01-15-2010 04:23 PM

I would rather have a small fast sack artist DE playing OLB for us like most other teams that run a 3-4. Is this guy serious here or just ****ing with us?

Mr. Laz 01-15-2010 04:52 PM

McClain will probably cover for DJ and make him look much better.

McClain is physical,smart and disciplined .... everything that DJ isn't. This will allow DJ to be a moron and run around and not kill our defense as much.

philfree 01-15-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6448533)
McClain will probably cover for DJ and make him look much better.

McClain is physical,smart and disciplined .... everything that DJ isn't. This will allow DJ to be a moron and run around and not kill our defense as much.

Maybe DJ just needs someone to tell him what he needs to do on every play. McClain could do that.


PhilFree:arrow:

WildTurkey 01-15-2010 05:01 PM

It's not a stupid question... He has the athletic ability and size to play Outside but his skill set and instincts and ability in coverage make him a better fit inside

Mr. Laz 01-15-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 6448551)
Maybe DJ just needs someone to tell him what he needs to do on every play. McClain could do that.


PhilFree:arrow:

i would hope that someone has already tried that.

how many coaches and other linebackers has DJ played with ... surely somebody tried that.

maybe DJ's mysterious issue is that he can't read or something so he never learned how to actually learn a playbook. :shrug:

Mr. Laz 01-15-2010 05:05 PM

There is nothing wrong with bringing the idea up ...

i don't agree with the premise but there is nothing wrong with talking about it.

Shox 01-15-2010 05:50 PM

I hope we take McClain over Berry. The ILB group only has 2 guys at top, then the talent drops off a cliff. There is much more OL and S talent in the 2nd and 3rd round than at ILB. Many say the 5th pick is to early to take a LB, well #5 is to early to take a S for sure. McClain is a safer pick then Berry. I think Berry will be pretty good, but he will not be the great playermaker everyone thinks in the NFL in my opinion. McClain seems to be a much better character and much better leader to me.

1. McClain
2a. OL
2b. OLB/S
3. RB (we need an insurance policy for Charles)

pickup a WR who can catch the ball in FA and one olineman.

My offseason dream.

Mr. Laz 01-15-2010 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox (Post 6448690)
I hope we take McClain over Berry. The ILB group only has 2 guys at top, then the talent drops off a cliff. There is much more OL and S talent in the 2nd and 3rd round than at ILB. Many say the 5th pick is to early to take a LB, well #5 is to early to take a S for sure. McClain is a safer pick then Berry. I think Berry will be pretty good, but he will not be the great playermaker everyone thinks in the NFL in my opinion. McClain seems to be a much better character and much better leader to me.

1. McClain
2a. OL
2b. OLB/S
3. RB (we need an insurance policy for Charles)

pickup a WR who can catch the ball in FA and one olineman.

My offseason dream.

Center and guard?


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