Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6449935)

Elway not top 5? You are about as ****ing stupid as Hootie and CoMo.
Posted via Mobile Device

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6449850)

It just makes me happy as an avid fan of the NFL to see Brady finally looked upon as what he is...

A good QB who played in a great system with all of the right pieces and was the leader of a dynasty...

but not an all-time great.

Originally Posted by RJ (Post 6449876)

Define "not an all time great". Does that mean non HOF caliber? Or does it mean not in the top 5 all time discussion?

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 6449840)

There was a portion of the Patriot fanbase at the end of 2008 who were actually asking what the Patriots could get for Brady. Cassel had played that well and won over the fanbase that much. People up their are still pissed the Patriots only got a 2nd for Cassel and Vrabel. For Chiefs fans to not get that Cassel did indeed show what he could do with a good supporting cast and good coaching and that what he was thrown into this year with a rookie head coach, no OC, a shit line, and a shit supporting cast basically reflects the football ignorance of Chiefs fans.
Yes. Cassel had a bad year.
But yes there were reasons and he needs and deserves a second year. If he fails this year then by all means flame away on him.
Posted via Mobile Device

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 6449950)

And his obvious landing place IS.........

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 6449866)

You are a ****ing moron.
Posted via Mobile Device

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 6449946)

Yeah, Moss only caught the TD pass from Brady to put the Patriots ahead in the SB with 2 minutes to play before the defense coughed it up. You are blaming Moss for the Patriots not going 19-0 that year?

I also love all this revisionist history. After 2007 Brady was being called one of the top 2 of all time after his 50 TD passes. He get a knee injury and now he's not even on the top 5 or 10. Sure, today he may not be. But it doesn't take away where he was 2 years ago.
And I love how Kurt Warner is suddenly clutch with his 9 playoff wins and Brady isn't with his 14. Talk about "what have you done for me lately?"
Posted via Mobile Device

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6449935)

Elway not top 5? You are about as ****ing stupid as Hootie and CoMo.
Posted via Mobile Device

Originally Posted by KC111110 (Post 6449885)

All time great to me would mean top 3-5 of all time. I mean shit even Jim Kelly and Elway are in the hall, and they're nowhere near the top 5

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6449954)

You, and the Patriot fan base don't get it.

I've acknowledged many times that Cassel has the talent to be a good game manager with surrounding talent, possibly a very good game manager.

You might compete for, and even win, a SB with a game manager (Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson), but to consistently copmpete at that level, you need a playmaking franchise QB.

Now you might not agree with the opinion that Cassel is not franchise potential, but those of us who believe he is only game manager are pissed that Pioli hitched his wagon to a guy who appears to only have game manager potential.

Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 6449890)

Yea Brady could never compare to your boy Huard. Christ I really believe that you can't top your level of stupidity but time and time again you prove me wrong. Don't you have an electrical outlet in your house(oh sorry I mean hotel room you rent by the week) you could be licking?

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 6449953)

He's definitely HOF caliber...but he's a full tier below, at least, behind the all-time greats.

And the all-time greats are probably a full tier below Peyton Manning.