ChiefsPlanet - Would you rather have Matt Schaub or Philip Rivers?

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)

- Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=29)

- - Would you rather have Matt Schaub or Philip Rivers? (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=223252)

Bradford throws a beautiful ball. Whether he can handle the NFL beatings and whether he can run an offense, who knows.

I recently read that Clausen's toe injury is pretty serious and that the same injury has ended the careers of other players.

Quote:

Originally Posted by penchief (Post 6524690)

What I saw of Bradford when Oklahoma lost the National Championship game to Florida last year left me very impressed with his downfield accuracy. He seemed to be throwing twenty and thirty yards downfield with zip and laser-like accuracy. Looked like he could make all the throws to me. And he was threading the needle even when his receivers weren't catching the pass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6524731)

Shut it and stop with these facts and accuate observations. We on this board must be anti- Bradford, so we like to say he was only good because he just threw swing passes or had the greatest offensive line and receivers in NCAA history that were open by 15 yards every time.

Actually I'm on OU guy, but I'll tell you straight up if a player is all hype or can actually play. Bradford is an accurate QB downfield as you will find and will stand in the pocket and take a pop. He does have some durability issues, but the shots he has taken are pretty good shots. Brett Favre he is not, but Brodie Croyle he is not either.

I never said he wasn't accurate, I only said that he has average arm strength.

I'll be curious to see how he does in the NFL throwing 15-18 yard outs. He had a strong enough arm in college to get by, but I'm not sure he does in the pros.

I stand by my claim that he's best suited for a WCO. I'm not saying he HAS to play in a WCO to be successful, but that's what would be best for his talents, IMO.

Whoever drafts him better have a starting option in place, because it's going to take a year or two for him to learn how to run a pro-style offense, make pre-snap reads, etc.

Yes, I would rather have Matt Schaub or Philip Rivers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6524731)

Bradford is an accurate QB downfield as you will find and will stand in the pocket and take a pop. He does have some durability issues, but the shots he has taken are pretty good shots. Brett Favre he is not, but Brodie Croyle he is not either.

The hit he took against BYU can't knock him out of the game, let alone the season (essentially).

He's too small, physically, to survive in the NFL. Unless I'm 100 percent confident he can add significant muscle mass, Bradford would be a wasted pick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6527732)

When you take a hit where you land on a shoulder with a linebacker on top of you, it's not one many QB's would survive. He isn't Brett Favre, but that wasn't a hang nail he had.

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6527714)

Yes, I would rather have Matt Schaub or Philip Rivers.

Physically I would much rather have Rivers than Schuab. Rivers problem is his head, and Clausen doesn't have that problem.

I think the comparison to Schaub is off.

He looks more like Trent Green than Schaub.

It just dawned on me that Washington should draft Bradford. I would love to see a Native American playing QB for the Redskins.

Washington would take Clausen in a heartbeat.

A headcase QB with great physical skills from an iffy college team? Shanahan's taken that guy time and time again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6528962)

I think the comparison to Schaub is off.

He looks more like Trent Green than Schaub.

I thought the exact same thing the other day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6529812)

Washington would take Clausen in a heartbeat.

A headcase QB with great physical skills from an iffy college team? Shanahan's taken that guy time and time again.

What makes Clausen a headcase? I've never heard anything about him other than he got caught drinking at a college party. Iffy college team? I'll give you there defense was god awful but ND's offense was quite good in a pro style system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 6530840)

He also got into a fight outside a bar this past year.

Here's an interesting take on Clausen from a ND fans perspective:

Quote:

I grew up in Ojai, California, just up the highway from Clausen's high school alma mater of Oaks Christian in Thousand Oaks, California.

Clausen had a storied high-school career and that's putting it lightly.

He was 42-0 as a prep starter. He led Oaks Christian to their first-ever state title. He threw for 48 touchdowns his senior year. He was USA Today's Offensive Player of the Year.

He was the Golden Boy that everyone wanted.

But ask any parent, student, player, or coach who played with or against Jimmy Clausen, and you'll probably hear the same thing.

Arrogant jerk.

His reputation was awful at any school he played against. He quite simply thought he was better than everyone else and showed it.

He was the beneficiary of a great offensive line and a superb running back named Marc Taylor, who was also rated USA Today's top schoolboy running back.

There were entire games he never got pressured.

Then, there were the whispers that he was just like his father—a Todd Marinovich-fatherly-type who lived and breathed for his son's football career. He had Jimmy under the tutelage of Steve Clarkston, the celebrated "Quarterback Whisperer"—a private coach for parents who can afford to give their kid the best that money can buy.

He was a true freshman starter at Notre Dame.

His first two seasons at Notre Dame were, in truth, fairly mediocre. The Notre Dame teams were awful.

His junior season he finally delivered on his earlier promise. He finished the season with 3,722 yards passing, a 68.8 percent completion rate, 161.42 passer rating, 28 touchdowns, and four interceptions. Notre Dame finished 7-6 his final year.

Look closer at a lot of his games. He made an amazing amount of miscues to lose games in the final minutes, as opposed to say, Joe Montana, who seemed to shine in the fourth quarter.

His record was a pedestrian 16-18 as a starter.

I don't think that was an accident.

From before he stepped onto the field, he rubbed many people, and teammates, the wrong way, from his mega press conference as a high school senior, to his arriving at Notre Dame in a stretch Hummer, to his reputation as a cocky and brash jock.

I'm not sure that inspires anyone within a locker room.

Even his post-game interviews seemed to suggest that it was everyone else who was responsible for Notre Dame's losing ways.

After a close loss to Navy, he was quoted as saying, "Well, I did everything I had to do to win the game."

In other words, my teammates are a bunch of losers.

Ask anyone in San Diego and they'll probably say that Ryan Leaf had all the ability in the world.

It was his attitude that did him in.

Same thing with Jimmy Clausen.

If I were the General Manager of an NFL team, I would avoid Jimmy Clausen like the plague. Never mind a first-round pick; I wouldn't waste a seventh-rounder on the guy.

In fact, I'd make sure he was as far away from my locker room as humanly possible.

And then there is the picture:

http://siliconangle.com/travisrodger...9e84842739.jpg

I had no idea that he liked to vacation in the Greek Mediterranean.

by "fight outside a bar" do you mean getting sucker punched by an idiot fan?

If Sacaofshit doesn't like Clausen, that vaults him into legit conversation that we should draft him.