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Stanley Nickels 03-04-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 6575435)
Cause the clips below is what we currently have.... I'll let you compare the angle of attack by our esteemed Mr. Brown, to that of Mays....

Watch these, and tell me that a competent speedy safety like Berry or Mays wouldn't make a considerable difference in the defense.

http://uranus.ckt.net/%7Egochiefs/browns2/brown.gif

http://uranus.ckt.net/%7Egochiefs/bengals/brown2.gif

http://uranus.ckt.net/%7Egochiefs/bengals/brown3.gif

http://uranus.ckt.net/%7Egochiefs/browns2/brown2.gif

http://i47.tinypic.com/21lpwfl.gif

http://uranus.ckt.net/%7Egochiefs/raiders/brown3.gif

http://uranus.ckt.net/%7Egochiefs/chargers/brownbad.gif

I love those gifs. On safety, we can agree: Glenn Dorsey could take a shit and throw it at a player and have a better chance of tackling the runner than Mike Brown. We need to address safety; if it's #5, it better be Berry. If Mays is available at 2a, take him. But he projects between there, and I think it'll be a bad decision for a team to use a first on him. Top of the second is about where he belongs-- take players based on raw upside (many of these players are just a few lingering questions from being in the first-- see: Flowers, Brandon).

bowener 03-04-2010 11:27 AM

I should have placed this in the OP, but I posted the video of Mays running more as a concern that they could **** up that big at the combine.

I am sure that posting a 4.32~ instead of a 4.43 is a big difference to a lot of coaches, so I hope the combine sends around a correction or something. This could potentially cost Mays a lot of money for something that is not his fault.

Chiefnj2 03-04-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 6575631)
I should have placed this in the OP, but I posted the video of Mays running more as a concern that they could **** up that big at the combine.

I am sure that posting a 4.32~ instead of a 4.43 is a big difference to a lot of coaches, so I hope the combine sends around a correction or something. This could potentially cost Mays a lot of money for something that is not his fault.

There are six times that go into the "official time". Teams have access to all of them, plus their own times. Teams aren't being hoodwinked, nor is Mays being ripped off.

bowener 03-04-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6575641)
There are six times that go into the "official time". Teams have access to all of them, plus their own times. Teams aren't being hoodwinked, nor is Mays being ripped off.

Ok, good. I don't really know the process so thank you for letting me know this. It just seemed strange to me.

Pitt Gorilla 03-04-2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6575120)
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Damn, those are some terrible angles.

Chiefnj2 03-04-2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 6575654)
Ok, good. I don't really know the process so thank you for letting me know this. It just seemed strange to me.

1 time is started by hand and ends with electronic timing.
2 are hand times at both the start and finish.

They do that for both runs, thus you get 6 times total. I don't know the formula for the "official" time that is released. I'm told each team treats the 6 times differently - some average all of them, some discard the highest and lowest, etc. Some rely on their own hand times.

keg in kc 03-04-2010 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 6575821)
Damn, those are some terrible angles.

Watching that video he looks like a really fast Bernard Pollard. Doesn't look like he knows how to do much but headhunt.

morphius 03-04-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 6574869)
Mays plays fast as balls during every USC game I've watched during his years on the team.

Because he needs the speed to make up for his lack of instincts? :D

DJ's left nut 03-04-2010 02:14 PM

Sorry, but Mays just doesn't show any instincts whatsoever back there.

Even at 10 I wouldn't take him. At 20 I'd consider it, but might still pass. Ultimately I think Earl Thomas will make a better pro.

This kid has Thomas Davis written all over him, perhaps even Urlacher. It's certainly not a bad thing and there are certainly ways he can be utilized on the football field, but safety just isn't one of them, IMO.

Chiefnj2 03-04-2010 02:15 PM

What's troubling to me about Mays is that with his uber-super-natural athleticism, 4 years starting in a big time program with excellent coaching, he still has very questionable instincts. You have to be concerned whether he will ever get "it".

morphius 03-04-2010 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 6576076)
Sorry, but Mays just doesn't show any instincts whatsoever back there.

Even at 10 I wouldn't take him. At 20 I'd consider it, but might still pass. Ultimately I think Earl Thomas will make a better pro.

This kid has Thomas Davis written all over him, perhaps even Urlacher. It's certainly not a bad thing and there are certainly ways he can be utilized on the football field, but safety just isn't one of them, IMO.

After watching the video I'd be almost terrified to have him and Wrong Angle Page playing next to each other.

Mecca 03-04-2010 03:48 PM

They wouldn't play next to each other, they play the same spot.

Earl Thomas likely isn't a safety at the next level either, Mays is what he is, an overly athletic freak that will most likely be a better pro than he was collegiate player.

Mecca 03-04-2010 03:48 PM

They wouldn't play next to each other, they play the same spot.

Earl Thomas likely isn't a safety at the next level either, Mays is what he is, an overly athletic freak that will most likely be a better pro than he was collegiate player.

MOhillbilly 03-04-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6576475)
They wouldn't play next to each other, they play the same spot.

Earl Thomas likely isn't a safety at the next level either, Mays is what he is, an overly athletic freak that will most likely be a better pro than he was collegiate player.

6 years and he is out.

Mecca 03-04-2010 04:13 PM

Doubt it, Mays even if he never develops big play ball skills is a long term starter in the league.

That's why he's rated high, yes he's an athletic freak but his floor is pretty high and his ceiling is the sky.


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