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Rain Man 04-25-2010 09:06 PM
Stupid Eric Berry question here, but will we be lining him up at strong safety? I've been assuming free safety the whole time, but saw something somewhere that mentioned strong safety. Honestly, I haven't paid attention because I assumed he was a free safety.

RustShack 04-25-2010 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 6714422)
coming from someone who neg repped me...

LOL I haven't even neg repped you lately, even though you talk shit every chance you get...

Did you like the pic i made for you?

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/2928/rustshack.jpg

if so please +rep...


The reason I +repped the last guy was I thought it was a great response...jealous?
You neg repped me like an hour ago ROFL

Chiefnj2 04-25-2010 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 6714440)

He's also bigger, faster, and has proven to be a solid football player his entire NCAA career. Earl Thomas really came on his senior year but was less of a sure thing.

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Earl Thomas came out as a sophomore.

CHENZ A! 04-25-2010 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 6714419)
I'd like to see a video with this song singing "Hallie Berry. Hallie Beeeeery"

http://goremasterfx.files.wordpress....berry_bond.jpg
uhhh that song exists and was the influence for the eric berry version

Ming the Merciless 04-25-2010 09:08 PM
I dont think it can be looked at in a vacuum.

I believe what we should look at is Berry + the #36 (McCluster) versus a #5 (Okung, Williams D or T, etc) & Thomas..

I Like the latter better, although Berry + a different #36 might have made me happier.

DJ's left nut 04-25-2010 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6714445)
Stupid Eric Berry question here, but will we be lining him up at strong safety? I've been assuming free safety the whole time, but saw something somewhere that mentioned strong safety. Honestly, I haven't paid attention because I assumed he was a free safety.
Almost has to. That's part of why I was upset that we didn't take Mays if we weren't sold on Clausen.

Page can't play SS and there's not really another SS on the roster. So the only place Berry can really play is SS with Page at FS.

That greatly diminishes one of his greatest strengths (playmaking ability).

Just another example of a poor pick that hurts the overall roster beyond the opportunity cost.

RealSNR 04-25-2010 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6714449)
Earl Thomas came out as a sophomore.
That's what I meant. I knew that :doh!:

DJ's left nut 04-25-2010 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 6714457)
I dont think it can be looked at in a vacuum.

I believe what we should look at is Berry + the #36 (McCluster) versus a #5 (Okung, Williams D or T, etc) & Thomas..

I Like the latter better, although Berry + a different #36 might have made me happier.
Uh...except that Thomas went 14th overall, a whopping 9 picks after Berry.

There was no way we were getting Okung and Thomas unless you think the Seahawks were going to trade us both of their firsts to move up from 6 to 5.

Rain Man 04-25-2010 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 6714472)
Almost has to. That's part of why I was upset that we didn't take Mays if we weren't sold on Clausen.

Page can't play SS and there's not really another SS on the roster. So the only place Berry can really play is SS with Page at FS.

That greatly diminishes one of his greatest strengths (playmaking ability).

Just another example of a poor pick that hurts the overall roster beyond the opportunity cost.

I guess that's why I'm scratching my head, too. People keep comparing him to Ed Reed, but Reed's a free safety. In fact, pretty much every first-round safety ever has been a free safety, and virtually every top-15 pick as far as I know.

It's much easier to swallow a free-safety as a top-15 pick over a strong safety.

kcpasco 04-25-2010 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6714445)
Stupid Eric Berry question here, but will we be lining him up at strong safety? I've been assuming free safety the whole time, but saw something somewhere that mentioned strong safety. Honestly, I haven't paid attention because I assumed he was a free safety.
Unlike the current safeties Berry can actually play run defense, so I'd say they use him at SS.

kcpasco 04-25-2010 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6714481)
I guess that's why I'm scratching my head, too. People keep comparing him to Ed Reed, but Reed's a free safety. In fact, pretty much every first-round safety ever has been a free safety, and virtually every top-15 pick as far as I know.

It's much easier to swallow a free-safety as a top-15 pick over a strong safety.
Ya I hope someone else can step up at safety so we can use him as a free safety.

DJ's left nut 04-25-2010 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6714481)
I guess that's why I'm scratching my head, too. People keep comparing him to Ed Reed, but Reed's a free safety. In fact, pretty much every first-round safety ever has been a free safety, and virtually every top-15 pick as far as I know.

It's much easier to swallow a free-safety as a top-15 pick over a strong safety.
Agreed.

Even when Pioli did something I liked, he promptly damaged it's value.

WildTurkey 04-25-2010 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6714481)
I guess that's why I'm scratching my head, too. People keep comparing him to Ed Reed, but Reed's a free safety. In fact, pretty much every first-round safety ever has been a free safety, and virtually every top-15 pick as far as I know.

It's much easier to swallow a free-safety as a top-15 pick over a strong safety.
Berry has the skills to play either spot.... and do well at either spot

LaChapelle 04-25-2010 09:23 PM
Two first names
case closed
stupid southern hick

Chiefnj2 04-25-2010 09:27 PM
Playing Berry at SS with a poor NT and no ILB's to speak of = injury waiting to happen.


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