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KCUnited 05-04-2010 12:10 PM

Can't get preggers in the butt.

The Franchise 05-04-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 6735562)
My wife started talking to our girls about anatomy/sex when they were 5 or 6 and eased into it. Once every couple of months, she'd take one of our two daughters and I'd take the other one on a "special day". Mom's special days always included a talk and then maybe some shopping or lunch. Dad's usually included a movie or a trip to the park or something like that. By the time the girls got to puberty, they were pretty used to open talks about the subject. Hopefully it will end well instead of turning them into coke-addicted strippers or something like that.

I'm going to have 3. I can't wait for these kinds of talks. :shake:

Jilly 05-04-2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6735560)
ROFL Yeah, sure it has.

**** you, honestly. God forbid the Church actually address the subject in a rational way. Maybe the actual honesty of the camp is life changing. And since you've never worked with anything like that, perhaps you should shut the **** up about something you know nothing about.

Brock 05-04-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly (Post 6735572)
**** you, honestly. God forbid the Church actually address the subject in a rational way. Maybe the actual honesty of the camp is life changing. And since you've never worked with anything like that, perhaps you should shut the **** up about something you know nothing about.

The mouth on you. I don't believe I said anything that prompted such a trashy low class response.

Rain Man 05-04-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenson71 (Post 6735502)
Maybe you could put him on chiefsplanet and we can do the talk for you? Save you some time anyway.

This is a great idea. We could be the positive male role models who truly shape his adult personality.

My parents never had "the talk" with me. The closest they ever came was teasing me whenever I said anything about a girl. I pretty much learned everything from the older kids who sat at the back of the school bus, which I would not recommend as a strategy.

Rain Man 05-04-2010 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 6735562)
My wife started talking to our girls about anatomy/sex when they were 5 or 6 and eased into it. Once every couple of months, she'd take one of our two daughters and I'd take the other one on a "special day". Mom's special days always included a talk and then maybe some shopping or lunch. Dad's usually included a movie or a trip to the park or something like that. By the time the girls got to puberty, they were pretty used to open talks about the subject. Hopefully it will end well instead of turning them into coke-addicted strippers or something like that. Or worse, I hope they don't become shopaholics.

The worst thing you can do is be a positive male role model. Now they're going to expect their husbands to take them to movies and the park, and that's just setting them up for disappointment.

The Rick 05-04-2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NewPhin (Post 6735549)
My dad had a talk with me when I was like 16 years old or so because he found my brother's porn stash and figured out I'd been looking at them. My parents were extremely religious, but even my dad had a "real" talk with me. He said something like, "Son, it's natural to want to look at porn. There's nothing really wrong with it. The main problem is that it gives you a skewed and inaccurate view of women. You know that your mom and I don't agree with pornography and don't want it in our house, so I threw away those magazines."

I think what he said about porn not being a "real" depiction of women is a good point.

This is great advice.

Jilly 05-04-2010 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6735576)
The mouth on you. I don't believe I said anything that prompted such a trashy low class response.

Don't act like we don't have history, Brock. It is SO frustrating to me that anytime I say something that has to do with church or faith, it seems to invite you to ridicule or sarcasm.

Garcia Bronco 05-04-2010 12:30 PM

I don't have kids, but just have the talk with him. There really is no right answer here. I would say about porn that some of it isn't realistic and that he needs to understand that. If you look at it for to long and too often you have problems having sex with real women, because it throws off what would be real world expectations. However it can be educational. Tell him not to be a "selfish" lover.

Another thing I would mention is exercising his muscles to help increase stamina. Maybe that's a later conversation. Remember too...it's not just one conversation. You want to create an environment where he can feel free to ask questions.

Brock 05-04-2010 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jilly (Post 6735611)
Don't act like we don't have history, Brock. It is SO frustrating to me that anytime I say something that has to do with church or faith, it seems to invite you to ridicule or sarcasm.

I don't ridicule anyone for their religion, so I think you might be talking out of your ass. In any case, I'd think a representative of a church would be able to think of something to say besides gutter talk.

Micjones 05-04-2010 12:32 PM

1. You have to begin by being comfortable enough to have the conversation with your son. The more comfortable you are with the subject matter the more comfortable he'll feel with openly communicating with you. Kids can sense that you're uneasy so it's absolutely vital that you take the edge off of the discussion.

2. Secondly, I would take time out to get a command of the information I was going to share with my child. Textbooks and videos can be helpful, but can also ruin the comfortable atmosphere you've created. I've found that the best way for me to get through to my son is to share my own personal experiences with puberty. Might be good for you to recall what it was like for you during this time and use your not having been given "the talk" as a way to reinforce the calm you'll need to maintain. You're there, after all, to be the guidance you didn't have. Also explain to him that porn is for adults who understand sex on a deeper level and can see it for what it is, but not something you want to serve as sex education for him. If you demonize it too much...it'll make him curious as to what it is you don't want him to be exposed to.

3. Keep things very basic and explain things in a way your son can easily understand. You want him to make you his source for information on the subject. If he feels the information isn't easily accessible or understood he'll take the path of least resistance and get information from people who likely don't know much more than he does.

4. Leave the door open to future conversations. As he treks deeper into puberty other questions will need to be answered. And he'll have experiences he'll likely want you to clarify. Tell him three times during this discussion that you want him to be open with you and feel free to come to you anytime he has questions, needs advice or just needs someone to listen to him. Don't cap the conversation in such a way that it seems like a one-off. You want it to be the beginning in a series of discussions.

I think if you do those 4 things...
It'll be much easier than you ever thought it could be.

wutamess 05-04-2010 12:35 PM

Thing is... he knows more than what you think he does (by school and the Internets)... Keep it Brutally REAL. Tellem EVERYTHING.
Pu$$y, dick and think of some others to let him know you've been where he's at and know it all (even tho u don't).... the slang it stands for, etc.
blowjob... etc.

Also have'm read something on STD's with pics to reinforce the necessity of a condom.
Especially the part that 70% of sexually active peeps have some form of HPV.

Tellem you did it all and that you've done all that he's about to go through and that he can come to you for advice/guidance. The main thing is to KEEP IT BRUTALLY REAL so that he won't be ashamed or scared to talk to you in the future because you'll sugarcoat everything.

Hope this helps... Had the talk with the 11 yo a couple of years ago... gonna have her read the STD thing in the near future. (She just turned 13).

38yrsfan 05-04-2010 12:35 PM

Dad had the talk with me

I had the talk a few years back with mine (now 16 and 17 and regularly dating)

Nothing special - this is what the biology is about, these are the consequences, and most importantly - spontaneous decisions can affect the rest of your life in ways you wont like.

Both of them snuck looks at my playboys and calendars - no big deal. Just had to make sure I got them back - the Playboy 25th anniversary special was passed down from my dad :)

Jilly 05-04-2010 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6735623)
I don't ridicule anyone for their religion, so I think you might be talking out of your ass. In any case, I'd think a representative of a church would be able to think of something to say besides gutter talk.

ok, you're right, you NEVER have been condescending or judgmental in any way, please forgive me for being wrong and for saying bad words.

Tylerthigpen!1! 05-04-2010 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 6735562)
My wife started talking to our girls about anatomy/sex when they were 5 or 6 and eased into it. Once every couple of months, she'd take one of our two daughters and I'd take the other one on a "special day". Mom's special days always included a talk and then maybe some shopping or lunch. Dad's usually included a movie or a trip to the park or something like that. By the time the girls got to puberty, they were pretty used to open talks about the subject. Hopefully it will end well instead of turning them into coke-addicted strippers or something like that. Or worse, I hope they don't become shopaholics.

I wouldn't make it a movie or shopping trip. My dad did that and I was scared shitless to go alone with him anywhere after that. That is a ridiculously awkward situation for a kid going through puberty to experience. Don't associate it with anything.


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