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Ugly Duck 08-01-2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 6910375)
It is San Diego's division to lose

True... but they do have some important holdouts. And Merriman just hasn't been the same after going off the roids.

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TheGuardian 08-01-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 6910818)
NO one wants them to be good at least no Chiefs fans, but some of us realize that they have some good players and they can be good. I wouldnt be shocked if they took the Division this year. They have some really nice players on that team.

With that being said, i hope they finish last. lol

Who? That team isn't any more talented than the Chiefs. The Raiders have sucked for a long time for a reason.

Jason Campbell isn't a difference maker and was traded away for a reason. The guy is as scary as fighting a 12 year boy with high estrogen levels.

Ugly Duck 08-01-2010 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6910887)
The guy (Campbell) is as scary as fighting a 12 year boy with high estrogen levels.

That's why we're so excited.... he's better than Jamarcus!

RealSNR 08-01-2010 06:37 PM

I would take Jason Campbell over Matt Cassel right now.

Let that not be as much of an insult towards Matt Cassel as it is a compliment to Jason Campbell. He's quite good, and had he had some competent leadership in the front office/coaching ranks, he could have had a much more illustrious NFL career than he's had up to this point.

TheGuardian 08-01-2010 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 6911058)
I would take Jason Campbell over Matt Cassel right now.

Let that not be as much of an insult towards Matt Cassel as it is a compliment to Jason Campbell. He's quite good, and had he had some competent leadership in the front office/coaching ranks, he could have had a much more illustrious NFL career than he's had up to this point.

Campbell is not quite good at all. I'm guessing you've never watched him play. I know your response will be that you have, but if that's the case then you just don't know much about football.

RealSNR 08-01-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6911075)
Campbell is not quite good at all. I'm guessing you've never watched him play. I know your response will be that you have, but if that's the case then you just don't know much about football.

For the shit hands that he's dealt, he does a remarkable job. He takes care of the football, doesn't get injured (at least not the past couple seasons) and has a passer rating in the mid 80s the past two years.

All that with no line, no running game, a reerun for a head coach, a new playbook every season, all while trying to figure out and learn the game himself. It's not like he's a grizzled veteran trying to produce these numbers.

I HAVE seen him play. I've seen him have shit games. I've also seen him deliver the ball with accuracy and make smart decisions on the field. He's better than you think, and if you think he sucks, then (uhp... wait for it...) you don't know much about football at all.

Woah, see what I just did there? I can play that reeruned game too.

Hootie 08-01-2010 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 6907269)
Campbell is about the perfect example of a league average QB.

He does some things well, he does some things poorly.

He works hard and seems to have the respect of his teammates.

I'd take him over Cassel anyday and I suspect that will be established in all its glory this season.

ROFL

That's funny.

If Campbell were my choice over Cassel I'd rather just let Brodie throw the ****ing football...

Campbell is a nothing.

Cassel has more upside and a better work ethic than Campbell...and if you don't think that's true than you're an idiot.

Aries Walker 08-01-2010 08:03 PM

Having the advantage of living in the DC area, and listening to every morning-drive talk-radio and news-channel sports-dude talk about nothing but Campbell for the last three years, my opinion is that he's just not that great. He's good, but not great; he's apparently a super-nice guy (odd fit for the Raiders), but he's maddeningly inconsistent.

If nothing else, it will be fun to see the Raider Nation repeatedly call for his head on a pike after Campbell lays an egg against someone like the Rams.

Ugly Duck 08-01-2010 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 6911200)
ROFL

Cassel has more upside and a better work ethic than Campbell...and if you don't think that's true than you're an idiot.

I can't find one derogatory statement about Campbell's work ethic anywhere on Google. Do you have a link for me?

TheGuardian 08-02-2010 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 6911097)
For the shit hands that he's dealt, he does a remarkable job. He takes care of the football, doesn't get injured (at least not the past couple seasons) and has a passer rating in the mid 80s the past two years.

All that with no line, no running game, a reerun for a head coach, a new playbook every season, all while trying to figure out and learn the game himself. It's not like he's a grizzled veteran trying to produce these numbers.

I HAVE seen him play. I've seen him have shit games. I've also seen him deliver the ball with accuracy and make smart decisions on the field. He's better than you think, and if you think he sucks, then (uhp... wait for it...) you don't know much about football at all.

Woah, see what I just did there? I can play that reeruned game too.

Apparently you can't.

He had a very good line while he was there for one. With Jansen anchoring one side while Samuels did the other.

Second, in 07 and 08 Portis went for 1262 and 1487 yards rushing.

So how did he have no running game? And even with a good line and solid ground game he was still mediocre to poor. And we're not talking about a second year guy 08 was his 4th year in the league.

Like I said, you don't know what you're talking about.

MOhillbilly 08-02-2010 07:54 AM

i watched campbell play from day one. kid has skills. anyone who says diffErent is ****ing reeruned.

TheGuardian 08-02-2010 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 6911729)
i watched campbell play from day one. kid has skills. anyone who says diffErent is ****ing reeruned.

Well he's in the NFL so he has some skills. Is he a GOOD QB? No. He's the walking definition of average NFL quarterback.

MOhillbilly 08-02-2010 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6911810)
Well he's in the NFL so he has some skills. Is he a GOOD QB? No. He's the walking definition of average NFL quarterback.

maybe hes average cause the kids had 5 diffrent OC and systems. Facts are he has good vision, a good feel for the pocket, can run and has a rocket for an arm.

TheGuardian 08-02-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 6911829)
maybe hes average cause the kids had 5 diffrent OC and systems. Facts are he has good vision, a good feel for the pocket, can run and has a rocket for an arm.

If he were that good he's not traded from a QB starving team, that just traded for a twilight years McNabb ok? This whole "we're scared of how good Campbell is" thing is ****ing stupid. The guy is average. Done.

MOhillbilly 08-02-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6911834)
If he were that good he's not traded from a QB starving team, that just traded for a twilight years McNabb ok? This whole "we're scared of how good Campbell is" thing is ****ing stupid. The guy is average. Done.

man you dont know shit about washingtons owner and what a crazy **** he is.
done.


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