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milkman 08-29-2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 6962359)
I agree with all but the bolded part. He came in at weight and passed the physical test and i've read no news of his commitment being questioned.
So what information are you forming this opinion on?


PhilFree:arrow:

My opinion is based on his play on the field.

What we get from this article is that he committed to maintaining weight and keeping in shape.

What we don't get from this article, or from his play on the field, is anything that suggests he committed to improving his technique.

TEX 08-29-2010 12:52 PM

sparking thoughts the Chiefs would look for a new left tackle with the fifth pick in the draft and then move Albert to right tackle or guard, where he played at Virginia.

IMO, they still need to do this. Albert simply as not progressed at LT to be considered a solid future option.

Mr. Laz 08-29-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6962360)
I'm just trying to figure out why people are saying he had such a bad game or that he hasn't improved or that he's having such a bad preseason that he shouldn't even be starting anymore.

link?

chiefzilla1501 08-29-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 6962512)
sparking thoughts the Chiefs would look for a new left tackle with the fifth pick in the draft and then move Albert to right tackle or guard, where he played at Virginia.

IMO, they still need to do this. Albert simply as not progressed at LT to be considered a solid future option.

I don't agree with this. If he has any upside at LT, you absolutely stick with him. Of course he's progressed. In his rookie season, he went from zero left tackle experience to being a decent starter. In his second season, he learned a totally different blocking scheme, was forced to lose weight and play with totally different technique, and he went from being a swinging gate to a good run blocker and at least holding some of his own on pass protections.

The guy has absolutely progressed. And while he hasn't shown a ton of improvement from the end of last season, he definitely has not regressed. He's a solid but unspectacular LT for now and he still has significant upside. I absolutely do not want to see him at Guard until we're absolutely convinced he's not a LT of the future.

Marcellus 08-29-2010 12:59 PM

Yea, Albert sucks. He has failed the team miserably to this point. He is the reason we are 0-3 in preseason. He is a loser. He can't play. Did you see him suck it up in that one game? Good God he is atrocious.

We should have an All Pro LT, QB, RB, Lb, NT, WR and, DB on the roster by now.If you aren't all pro you suck.

Who drafted Brandon, Pioli? What a loser. Oops nope. Well he still sucks.

Is Damion McIntosh available?

chiefzilla1501 08-29-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6962516)
link?

Dude, read this thread.

You said he had his worst game by opinion, even though there's a detailed play-by-play breakdown that says he did just fine.

Dane and a few others have said they need to give up on the Albert project and go with a guy like Barry Richardson.

There are a bunch of people who have said he has not improved or shown progress.

ChiefsCountry 08-29-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6961977)
I was a HUGE Albert fan, especially after seeing how well he played in space at Virginia. I was extremely happy about his first year in KC. He pretty much kicked ass from game one.

Haley and Bill Muir (who I ****ING HATE) ****ed him up. The ENTIRE offensive line, despite their age, has taken a MAJOR step backwards since his hiring. I think he ****ing blows and should be fired ASAP.

Not only have people like Albert, Richardson and Brown not progressed, Asamoah, who was rated very highly hasn't done ****ing DICK.

Ryan Lilja, a left guard that was converted to right guard, has absolutely been the class of the 2010 preaseason, probably because he's been around long enough and is smart enough to avoid Muir's bullshit advice.

I don't have any idea what Pioli is seeing in these offensive and defensive lineman but whatever it is, sucks ****ing ass.

Look what the Bucs fan on here said when we hired Muir.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...5&postcount=19

Marcellus 08-29-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6962523)
Look what the Bucs fan on here said when we hired Muir.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...5&postcount=19

I wish all OL sucked to the level of 6 yards per carry.

the Talking Can 08-29-2010 01:04 PM

albert is a better LT than Cassel is a QB

chiefzilla1501 08-29-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 6962526)
I wish all OL sucked to the level of 6 yards per carry.

I really think sometimes people bitch for the sake of bitching.

Blame the front office for not bringing great talent to the offensive line. But in terms of the coaching, Albert has most definitely progressed under Muir's watch and the run blocking has improved by leaps and bounds. And the pass protection went from swinging gate to giving Cassel more than enough time to make plays.

I don't blame Muir one bit for working with average talent (mostly) and for being asked to protect the QB who makes his offensive line significantly worse by poor decision making.

Marcellus 08-29-2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6962535)
I really think sometimes people bitch for the sake of bitching.

Blame the front office for not bringing great talent to the offensive line. But in terms of the coaching, Albert has most definitely progressed under Muir's watch and the run blocking has improved by leaps and bounds. And the pass protection went from swinging gate to giving Cassel more than enough time to make plays.

I don't blame Muir one bit for working with average talent (mostly) and for being asked to protect the QB who makes his offensive line significantly worse by poor decision making.

Funny thing is when Cassel struggles it's not the OL's fault. Now we have a Albert sucks thread.

Unless a player is All Pro or a Pro Bowler they suck ass.

Albert just needs to be competent, why does he need to kill people every day to be acceptable?

We don't need Pol Pot a LT. We just need Churchill.

FlaChief58 08-29-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6962517)
I don't agree with this. If he has any upside at LT, you absolutely stick with him. Of course he's progressed. In his rookie season, he went from zero left tackle experience to being a decent starter. In his second season, he learned a totally different blocking scheme, was forced to lose weight and play with totally different technique, and he went from being a swinging gate to a good run blocker and at least holding some of his own on pass protections.

The guy has absolutely progressed. And while he hasn't shown a ton of improvement from the end of last season, he definitely has not regressed. He's a solid but unspectacular LT for now and he still has significant upside. I absolutely do not want to see him at Guard until we're absolutely convinced he's not a LT of the future.

:toast: THIS

Mr. Laz 08-29-2010 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6962519)
Dude, read this thread.

You said he had his worst game by opinion, even though there's a detailed play-by-play breakdown that says he did just fine.

Dane and a few others have said they need to give up on the Albert project and go with a guy like Barry Richardson.

There are a bunch of people who have said he has not improved or shown progress.

i think you get upset and insulted and make things up.

logic test for you:

a. brandon albert had his worst game of the preseason
b. brandon albert is a bad player


Do comments A) and B) mean the same thing?

Mr. Laz 08-29-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6962529)
albert is a better LT than Cassel is a QB

i would say this is true

Coach 08-29-2010 01:20 PM

The flea-flicker was on Albert as much as it is on Cassel. Albert didn't knock his guy down when he should had. The link that I am providing will show it, or at least I hope so.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v3...t=MVI_0673.mp4


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