Longing to sign neckbeards is trending
Leinart - Moss - .....

Seriously? Honestly? You really think we have a legitimate "prospect" outside of Bowe? Please rethink what you have said, then go back to last season and look at the crap we trotted out there every week to play the WR position.



Waiting....




....waiting....



...done yet?


Okay, now let me ask again: Seriously? Honestly? What "prospect" do we have? What player is worth benching Chambers?

LMAO
@ "Prospects"


LMAO

LMAOLMAO

Football is not baseball.

I'm beginning to wonder if the rebuilding mentality of the Royals hasn't infected Chiefs fans.

In the NFL you are never EVER more than 3 years away from being a potential contender. It's why the "Deal Allen" argument was so stupid - the Chiefs could've easily been ready to compete this season with some savvy moves at QB and a legitimate gamechanger on Defense. And guess who's still in his prime?

Moss will be a legitimate #1 next season and he'd be no worse than an elite #2 over the next 2. He has plenty left to give a team that intends to compete.

Moss will still be absolutely viable as an NFL WR, and a damn good one, when the Chiefs should be expected to contend.

I'd absolutely bring him in.

Moss quits when he's not getting attention or feels under-appreciated.

Not when the team's bad, not when the QB is bad, but when he feels overlooked.

In KC he'd be the unquestioned #1 option on offense and a guy that's seen as a savior. In Minn. he was a malcontent that wore out his welcome. In Oakland...well it's Oakland. In NE, he's Brady's running mate and when Brady's hogging the spotlight with the contract talks, Moss feels left out.

I don't think he's a bad seed, I truly don't. I think he's just a guy that needs attention. In KC, oddly enough, I think he'd get it.

I don't give a rat's ass why he quits.

He quits.

There's no way I want that kind of player on my team, I don't care how much talent he has.

We'd get the Raiders version of Moss, not the Pats version.

Ideally no.

But if the circumstances are not in place that would encourage him to quit, I'm willing to deal with it when the club is otherwise bereft of talent.

Sorry, but 'that kind of player' exists on every team. A lot of these guys will mail it in when things aren't looking so great (in fact, Chambers and Bowe have been guilty of it). Moss is higher profile because he's a HOF talent, but make no mistake, 1/2 the NFL carries an attitude similar to Randy's.

unless the Chiefs show themselves as a legit playoff/super bowl contender this year we will not be getting Moss or anyone else like Moss.

you don't want Moss/T.O type guys on a team that isn't winning ....... period.

I disagree with the concept that "mailing it in" and "quiting are the same thing.

I'd like to have a team full of players that don't lose focus and concentration when they're 10 games in with only 2 or 3 wins, but that simply isn't possible.

But these guys aren't quiting.

Randy Moss just out and out quits.

He isn't trying to call up the focus and concentration.

He just doesn't give a damn.

Chiefs have a LOT of winning to do before players of that caliber would even consider stepping foot on KC's roster. I'm sure he'd rather retire than play here.

I'm curious - do you consider that more egregious than a holdout?

Vincent Jackson is going to hold out for 10 weeks purely to make more money. He's obviously putting himself ahead of his team and there's a definite me-first attitude at play there.

Brandon Marshall was a malcontent until he got his contract. Reevis would've stayed away had he not gotten paid.

Priest Holmes would've sat out an entire season without a new deal, IMO.

The disease is the same, the symptom is slightly different. All of these players put themselves ahead of their teams and decided that they didn't care enough about the game to play it under the terms of their old deal.

I just don't see the two circumstances as alarmingly different in that their underlying motivations are essentially the same - Me ahead of Team. If Vincent Jackson were available tomorrow, damn right I'd take him.

And I'd take Moss as well. I understand those that wouldn't, but I think at times you simply need to deal with mercurial talent as it is. Sometimes you just have to deal with the strangeness in pursuit of elite talent. Moss is that talent.

Probably.

:spock:

2007 (with Brady healthy): 1493 yards, 15.2 average, 23 TDs.
2008 (with Cassel starting): 1008 yards, 14.6 average, 11 TDs.
2009 (with Brady returning): 1264 yards, 15.2 average, 13 TDs.

How exactly did he quit?

There have been a few odd rumblings, and he's not happy about not having a new contract, but "quitting"? Compared to what we expected, he's behaved himself quite well. I watched him at practice in training camp. He's playful with the fans, he signs autographs even when it's not his day to sign, and generally hasn't done anything wrong (especially when compared to players like Ocho and T.O. and some others).

I'm not sure I would break the bank for a guy his age. But he IS one of the best WRs in NFL history, and he's still got some tread on the tires.

Now, I grant you, I'm not sure if he wasn't motivated (i.e. playing for a new contract) if he'd be the same guy. Here in New England, he was trying to show the league he still "had it", and he was (is) trying to finally get a Super Bowl ring. If he went to a mid-level team that probably wasn't going to win a SB in the next year or two, I don't know how he'd act. So he's probably not worth the risk for KC. And, I don't even think he's worth the money for the Pats (who might cover his absence with promising rookies). But I don't think "quitter" is accurate.