70%

I think were a more talented (speed wise) and better coached team than last year...

I was wrong about the KC 27 SD 17 last week, So I am going KC 24 Browns 16 this week.

Given the standard 3 points for HFA and Vegas believes KC to be a slightly better team.

That said, if the Chiefs can't win this one, you have to wonder if they'll be able to a road game at all this season.

This is a game KC needs to win.

This is spot on.

Why we could win: Better coaching, better defense, better special teams, film from last year, Charles and Jones. Cleveland playing 2nd string QB, they usually lose their home opener.

Why we could lose: We're on the road, Chiefs not a good road team. Nobody on Cleveland will rip their helmet off in the middle of a game changing play. They ran the ball up our ass at Arrowhead last year. Cribbs returned the ball up our ass on kicks last year. Two KC Defensive Ends questionable, Matt Cassel is our QB. It might rain, which always helps the home team.

Who the **** says that we have to go off of what Vegas is saying? That's not the point of this thread.

I'm no gambler, but what it does mean is that Vegas believes that the teams are evenly matched, but are favoring the Browns due to homefield.

A Browns team that has only 1 of their last 10 home openers.

I've pegged it as a win too, and no, it's not "homeristic" for a person to believe our chances of victory over Cleveland is over 50%.

But as a whole, the vote has quickly turned into a homer-fest as 20+ people give us 50% or higher odds of winning versus 1 person voting we have less than 50% odds of winning.

Watch us lose to Cleveland in a close game and everyone jumps back off the bandwagon.

EDIT: 43 people now...LOL

Yea by 2 wich is a push. The talking heads have no respect for our Chiefs (and rightly so)considdering the past few years and they love the Mangina for whatever reason. Most are calling our win a fluke, so vegas picking the marshmellow brownies is not surprising to me because it's so early in the season and hard to jugde how good or bad teams really are.

Well, hell. I might as well close the thread. Vegas is always right, so there's no point in discussing it now is there. :p

In all fairness. We dont know enough about this team to know...

Its not like last year, where we had our fingers on the pulse...

This team is 180 degrees different.. Will be interesting to see... What are we going to expect from our offense? Defense, ST?

I think in 4 weeks we will know, but right now? Its a crap shoot.

Who the **** said anyone has to do what Vegas is saying? No one said that.

If you paid attention, my point is that overall the voters in this poll are being homers. Right now it's 43 votes at 50% or higher to win, 1 vote at less than 50% to win.

We're not playing Park Hill high school, we're playing a road NFL game.

Since Romeo used to be the Browns Head Coach, you know he'd like to stick it to em. Extra "brownie" point for the Chiefs chances.

Hey now, Park Hill can be a tough road game!

Yeah no doubt.

I'd say about 60%

That's an upgrade. I mean, which would you rather eat?