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Chiefs lost on the road at Indy. (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=234902)

If you actually read the threads, and not just the titles, this place is pretty civil & realistic... if anything, it knocked the fans down a couple of pegs, which isn't a bad thing after the 3-0 hype and "the Colts game is a tossup" talk. I thought there might be a meltdown, but if you think this is a meltdown, you haven't paid attention during other losses in the past several years.

Don't judge the board's overall mood of the season 20 minutes after a frustrating loss.... duh. For the two weeks leading up to the game, I knew a loss wasn't a big deal, but that doesn't mean I wasn't pissed off they blew chances to take the lead and possibly win the game.

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 7076698)

Wow. What a freaking surprise. In other news, the Chiefsplanet board melted down on trying to figure out who the biggest goat was.

First, flame away...that's fine. But, Cassel didn't lose this game for the Chiefs. Cassel didn't have much of an opportunity to lose this game.

The 4th and two on the first drive was stupid. The on sides kick was stupid, and poorly executed.

Now, lets move on. The Chiefs didn't push the ball down the field much. They were worried about Freeney and Mathis.

The Chiefs played scared. No real imagination.

They were worried about the Colts on the road, and it showed. They should have taken some shots down field.

Then, maybe we could have hung this loss on Cassel.

As it is, I put in on Haley. Not to say that I don't want Haley, or think he is a bad coach....just realize that he clearly thought the Chiefs were outclassed. He should be encouraged that the Chiefs played with the Colts the entire game. And, had a few things bounced their way, the Chiefs are winning that game.

Ehh...I wouldn't say they played scared because they did take some risks. I mean going for it on 4th down rather than taking the automatic 3 pts was a risk. The onside kick was a risk. Didn't agree with the risks they took.

I mean, if they were going to take chances, then they should've went down the field a little bit more. They played pretty much the same way the did in the playoffs against Indy, except, this time around, they executed better.

I think we just have to accept the fact that playing conservative against the Colts by running the ball all the time doesn't work.

*When you mention scared, I agree with you in a sense they were scared to drop back and pass in order to avoid both Freeney and Mathis. They somewhat played scared, but not entirely.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7076721)

Cassel failed to execute the easy stuff. It's not like they were asking him to throw 20 yards downfield. He was off the mark on 5 yard passes. How can you not be accurate throwing within 10 yards.

Honestly I didn't see as much inacuracy as you claim. In fact he had a few nice passes that you are not giving him credit for. This loss was not on Cassel's shoulders and not even Bowe's. It was stupid playcalling at inopportunr times. Case in point the stupid pitch-back to Jones when we were all but ready to go in for a TD (a call more suited to Jamaal's talents) . Later in the game, I believe we needed a few yards for a first down and we send Jamaal up the middle for nothing. There were a few other of headscratchers in Weis's playcalling today. But these two stick to mind.

I can very easily see Pioli looking at this game and any future games just like it and saying "We need to get Matt some real receivers! Bowe and Chambers aren't cutting it!"

:facepalm: This team is so close yet so ****ing far away

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7076726)

And here comes the Moral Victory Parade, right on schedule.

Why not?! We take a young and incomplete team to paly on the turf of a perenial SB contender manned by possibly the best QB ever and snakebitten be last week's loss and we give them a toe to toe dance until the last few minutes. The Colts had every reason and incentive to roll us all over the field and kick our ass royally. Frankly I was gonna be satisfied with a respectable loss. I privately dreaded a route that would set beck our developement by weeks. I got what I expected even though by halftime I was raising my expectations.

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7077613)

Why not?! We take a young and incomplete team to paly on the turf of a perenial SB contender manned by possibly the best QB ever and snakebitten be last week's loss and we give them a toe to toe dance until the last few minutes. The Colts had every reason to roll us all over the field and kick our ass royally. Frankly I was gonna be satisfied with a respectable loss. I privately dreaded a route that would set beck our developement by weeks. I got what I expected even though by halftime I was raising my expectations.

Because when you dominate Peyton Manning, you usually expect to win the game. We were totally the better football team out there today. One player screwed it up for us. Two if you count Bowe. That's not right to be so damn close to being a GREAT team in this league and you get held back by reeruns

Die in a ****ing fire you moron.

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 7076800)

you are a ****ing dumbass

Yeah the onside kick and going on 4th was stupid, but with the way our D played and our running game, a ****ing reeruned midget at qb should have been able to ****ing win if he was throwing to another reeruned midget instead of bowe, who doesnt deserve his ****ing name being ****ing capitalized

Your point would sound more credible without the name-calling. :shake:

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 7076861)

2) Cassel had one guy in mind for each play he dropped back all game. Then he either tried to force it in or panicked and threw a terrible checkdown or away.
3) Cassel's throw to Charles in the flat on (3rd or 4th) and short was like a billion miles per hour and at his feet, giving him no chance to make a play on it. It was atrocious and five yards away. Seriously? This is what we pay him for?
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These two points I definitely agree with. But still, IMO we lost more due to bad playcalling than any one player.

I agree with most of your takes but I say the onsides kick was brilliant. Just missed by a yard. The 4th and 2 was a head scratcher. Why they don't just throw to Moeaki I don't know. Haley had a good game. Weis was calling the plays and had an off day. Only thing I can blame Haley for is giving it too much to Charles. His fumble was costly.

Oh and Bowe sucks.

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7077626)

Because when you dominate Peyton Manning, you usually expect to win the game.

Obviously we didn't dominate him enough. Manning has made a career out of late 4th quarter comebacks. This was no different.

Mods can you reset his post count?