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KCbroncoHATER 10-11-2010 04:17 PM

Funny that's what I just said about Matt.

Saccopoo 10-11-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 7080242)
Kietzman & Petro must have been listening to him because they are agreeing with him.

****ing tards. If they just read the Chiefs Planet, they'd know our offensive line is completely solid and kicking ass. What the **** do people in sports know? Nothing apparently.

Saccopoo 10-11-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7080352)
I don't share your love for LJ (at all), but I think there's some truth to the idea that the offensive line is probably around average and that the coaching is covering up for it to some extent. If they were really a good offensive line, we'd occasionally line up and power forward for a yard in short yardage situations, but they don't really ever do that. For example, last week on the 4th down play that they rushed into after first having their punt team in the game. On that play, they run a tricky sweep rather than just lining up and bulldozing some people.

Shut the **** up.

Kicking ass. The offensive line.

Kicking ass.

People don't know anything around here and never watch football. If they did, they'd know the offensive line is completely solid and is kicking ass.

LaChapelle 10-11-2010 04:24 PM

Mike Gollic(?) on yesterday's game: "The Chiefs sure are a fun team to watch"
WTF was fun about yesterday's game

bobbything 10-11-2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7080594)
****ing tards. If they just read the Chiefs Planet, they'd know our offensive line is completely solid and kicking ass. What the **** do people in sports know? Nothing apparently.

Neither of them were agreeing that the line sucked. In fact, Kietzman said today that he thought the line was playing well. And it is. It's not spectacular, but good enough to protect the least-sacked QB in the league (currently at 3 sacks, would have been 2 if Cassel hadn't Keystone Cop'd himself into a sack yesterday).

Point being, the line is less of a problem than a QB who is being paid $10+ mil per year to hand the ball off and not throw interceptions.

Saccopoo 10-11-2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 7080617)
Neither of them were agreeing that the line sucked. In fact, Kietzman said today that he thought the line was playing well. And it is. It's not spectacular...

Bullshit. I was told certain players were "ascending" and "kicking ass."

Kicking ass is kicking ass. That's damn near the polar opposite of "not spectactular."

I mean, we could theorize about why they are having Cassel dink and dunk and sweeps and nifty little tricks and the like, but we all know that would be hypothetical blather as it's been stated here repeatedly that the o-line is "kicking ass."

Mecca 10-11-2010 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 7080335)
Petro pretty much said earlier that Cassel is at best Delhomme and he isnt a franchise QB

Which he followed by saying he was perfectly fine with that.

bobbything 10-11-2010 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7080627)
Bullshit. I was told certain players were "ascending" and "kicking ass."

Kicking ass is kicking ass. That's damn near the polar opposite of "not spectactular."

I mean, we could theorize about why they are having Cassel dink and dunk and sweeps and nifty little tricks and the like, but we all know that would be hypothetical blather as it's been stated here repeatedly that the o-line is "kicking ass."

You sound bitter.

Fish 10-11-2010 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7080627)
Bullshit. I was told certain players were "ascending" and "kicking ass."

Kicking ass is kicking ass. That's damn near the polar opposite of "not spectactular."

I mean, we could theorize about why they are having Cassel dink and dunk and sweeps and nifty little tricks and the like, but we all know that would be hypothetical blather as it's been stated here repeatedly that the o-line is "kicking ass."

This really isn't working out for you bub....

bobbything 10-11-2010 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 7080645)
Which he followed by saying he was perfectly fine with that.

This is the problem.

You don't pay a QB that kind of money, and trade away a high draft pick, unless you're convinced he's the guy to build your team around. You can pay Rex Grossman, or Todd Collins, $1 mil to simply "not screw up" for a few seasons. But that's not what they acquired Cassel for. They got him to be a franchise QB. Now, everyone's realizing that he's not a franchise QB. This is an indictment on Pioli. And true to revisionists history, people in the local media are justifying his performance with comments such as, "He is what he is."

Yeah, he's an inaccurate QB who get's paid $10 million per year to hand the ball off to Jamaal Charles, and not throw interceptions.

Hell, I remember when Pioli first got here and was extremely stand-offish with the media. Kietzman defended him when the Cassel trade surfaced by saying (something to the effect of), "I understand now why they've been so secretive. They made the biggest trade in the history of the franchise."

Now, I take most of what he says with a grain of salt. However, I think many people felt sort of this way. That we had made a huge acquisition that would eventually propel this team to the next level.

Now, we have fans and the media hoping for Trent Dilfer, or Jake Delhomme. It's depressing.

This season, if he's ends up being Trent Dilfer, fine. But we better cut his ass the second we lose in the first round to the Jets because he went 1 for 7 on 3rd down.

Mecca 10-11-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 7080650)
This is the problem.

You don't pay a QB that kind of money, and trade away a high draft pick, unless you're convinced he's the guy to build your team around. You can pay Rex Grossman, or Todd Collins, $1 mil to simply "not screw up" for a few seasons. But that's not what they acquired Cassel for. They got him to be a franchise QB. Now, everyone's realizing that he's not a franchise QB. This is an indictment on Pioli. And true to revisionists history, people in the local media are justifying his performance with comments such as, "He is what he is."

Yeah, he's an inaccurate QB who get's paid $10 million per year to hand the ball off to Jamaal Charles, and not throw interceptions.

Hell, I remember when Pioli first got here and was extremely stand-offish with the media. Kietzman defended him when the Cassel trade surfaced by saying (something to the effect of), "I understand now why they've been so secretive. They made the biggest trade in the history of the franchise."

Now, I take most of what he says with a grain of salt. However, I think many people felt sort of this way. That we had made a huge acquisition that would eventually propel this team to the next level.

Now, we have fans and the media hoping for Trent Dilfer, or Jake Delhomme. It's depressing.

This season, if he's ends up being Trent Dilfer, fine. But we better cut his ass the second we lose in the first round to the Jets because he went 1 for 7 on 3rd down.

There were people here who knew what he was before the move was ever made that's why all that talk was met with facepalms a year and a half ago. There was the 180 because he was the Chiefs new QB by a lot of people and now we're back to where we were before the trade was made...about 2% of people like him or want him.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-11-2010 04:44 PM

The guy's reads are just flat-out terrible. He had a wide-open receiver on that "go for it" play, and just completely ignored him.

BigMeatballDave 10-11-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7080601)
Shut the **** up.

Kicking ass. The offensive line.

Kicking ass.

People don't know anything around here and never watch football. If they did, they'd know the offensive line is completely solid and is kicking ass.

Dude, seriously. Just stop. Pretty much this ENTIRE board will tell you our line is playing well. How many times has Matt been sacked?

I'd be willing to bet these hacks on the air are talking shit to get listeners. Its what they do. You, however are just a moron and a drama queen.

WilliamTheIrish 10-11-2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7080670)
The guy's reads are just flat-out terrible. He had a wide-open receiver on that "go for it" play, and just completely ignored him.

If you're talking about the TD that Bowe dropped, just stop. If not, please explain.

Saccopoo 10-11-2010 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7080709)
Dude, seriously. Just stop. Pretty much this ENTIRE board will tell you our line is playing well. How many times has Matt been sacked?

But yet it's funny to see that it's suddenly the O-line that deserves the credit for Cassel not getting sacked after they were responsible for getting him drilled 47 times last season.

It couldn't possibly be that the coaching staff is trying to get the ball out of his hands substantially quicker this season.

It couldn't be that Cassel is finally figuring out how to avoid sacks. (See sentence above.)

It couldn't be that they are utilizing quick slants, running sweeps, end runs, etc. to minimize QB pressure.

It's got to be that the offensive line has had an epiphany and went from super bad to kicking ass overnight.

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I'd be willing to bet these hacks on the air are talking shit to get listeners.
I'd be willing to bet that they've been in the business of looking at sports, analyzing sports and talking sports (and in the instance of Bill Maas, playing sports) and have a general understanding of what's going on.

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Its what they do.
Yeah, because a quarterback controversy wouldn't stir as much shit as saying that the coaching staff is putting in a lot of effort to mask shitty offensive line play.

Talking about the offensive line is much more controversial and fire branding than trying to pull in listeners with a "start Croyle" campaign. I mean, other than around here anyway.

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You, however are just a moron and a drama queen.
Yep. You are right and everyone else is wrong and a moron. Typical response from self-appointed, self-aggrandizing know it alls.


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