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Reerun_KC 10-26-2010 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LaChapelle (Post 7122021)
Pioli proving all CPers wrong since 2009
:hmmm:

very interesting take.....

tonyetony 10-26-2010 08:09 PM
He was sacked 24 times in his first 6 games last year compared to 5 this year. His success this year will be directly related to the health of our offensive line.

ShortRoundChief 10-26-2010 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tonyetony (Post 7122112)
He was sacked 24 times in his first 6 games last year compared to 5 this year. His success this year will be directly rated to the health of our offensive line.
So what you're saying is if a qb isn't under pressure he'll do better.


Whew.

That's a relief, lol.

doomy3 10-26-2010 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7121884)
Hopefully, "fixing the quarterback" works. I see Weis trying to get him to get comfortable doing what he can do at this point and as he gets more and more comfortable with that set of responsibilities, more and more is put on his plate and that eventually he is able to make plays for us.

Hey, its a possibility.
Hell, he made guys like Brady Quinn and Jimmy Clausen look like decent QBs. If he can do that with those guys, who's to say he can't do it with Cassel.

tonyetony 10-26-2010 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 7122114)
So what you're saying is if a qb isn't under pressure he'll do better.


Whew.

That's a relief, lol.
No I 'm saying last year our line from center to right tackle sucked worse than Cassel.

milkman 10-26-2010 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tonyetony (Post 7122112)
He was sacked 24 times in his first 6 games last year compared to 5 this year. His success this year will be directly related to the health of our offensive line.
The O-Line is improved and providing better protection, but the primary reason he isn't taking sacks is because Weis has him getting teh ball out much quicker than he did last year.

He has been subject to taking a lot of sacks in the past, not only in KC, but in New England as well, because he held the ball for far too long.

petegz28 10-26-2010 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7122135)
The O-Line is improved and providing better protection, but the primary reason he isn't taking sacks is because Weis has him getting teh ball out much quicker than he did last year.

He has been subject to taking a lot of sacks in the past, not only in KC, but in New England as well, because he held the ball for far too long.
Yes, that is absolutely correct. He has Drew Bledsoe syndrome. Sometime you just have to throw it away and go onto the next play.

mlyonsd 10-26-2010 08:22 PM
I'm less sold on Cassel then when we signed him.

He doesn't improvise like a true elite QB. JMO.

And I think that's what makes a true outstanding QB stand out.

tonyetony 10-26-2010 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7122135)
The O-Line is improved and providing better protection, but the primary reason he isn't taking sacks is because Weis has him getting teh ball out much quicker than he did last year.

He has been subject to taking a lot of sacks in the past, not only in KC, but in New England as well, because he held the ball for far too long.
Oh I agree 100% but I think we can all agree the right side of our line this year isn't the liability that it was last year.

Lilja for Goff?? Weigman for Niswonger??? No comparison.

BossChief 10-26-2010 08:25 PM
Isnt the line for starts by a quarterback before you should truly judge him 36?

Cassel just started his 36th game FWIW.

tonyetony 10-26-2010 08:34 PM
What is Cassel's win loss record as an NFL starter now?

Isn't it like 19 - 11 because Croyle started game 1 last year.

BossChief 10-26-2010 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tonyetony (Post 7122194)
What is Cassel's win loss record as an NFL starter now?

Isn't it like 19 - 11 because Croyle started game 1 last year.
10-5 in NE 08
4-11 in KC 09
4-2 in KC 10

18-18 If my math is working

tonyetony 10-26-2010 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7122203)
10-5 in NE 08
4-11 in KC 09
4-2 in KC 10

18-18 If my math is working
Thanks. That's more like it. I'm trying to do too many things over here.

Marcellus 10-26-2010 08:46 PM
LMAO off at this thread.

At least we have some spirited conversation going on rather than 100% Cassel sucks.

That's improvement.

Phobia 10-26-2010 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7121951)
I don't want to take much away from him - he's played reasonably well the last couple weeks. However, you have to consider the huge impact that interceptions have on QB rating. They've got him trained to only throw pretty safe throws, so he's not being intercepted. And that's what the coaches want.

I would LIKE to see us throw down field more often, but hey, if they can make the short stuff work with our running game, I can't complain.
That WR leaped out of the sky to bail him out last week. I swear he jumped so high he could have dunked between his legs.


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