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Ebolapox 10-29-2010 02:19 AM

you know what the cassel defenders' argument of 'HE'S DEVELOPING' feels like? the movie step brothers...

THEY'RE OUR CHILDREN, WE CAN'T JUST THROW THEM OUT. they'll find their way eventually...BUT THEY'RE 40 YEARS OLD FFS!

yeah, he may be developing (it's debatable, imo). cool. he'll be fully developed, franchise qb within 5-6 years. and we'll have to go through how many role-players waiting for him to be more than a game-manager? moeaki will have several broken bones by then. waters will be gone. we'll likely have new starters at roughly 80% of the positions.

but hey, who cares, we're winning against shitty teams and charlie weis is game-planning to make cassel not look shitty! who freaking cares if our downfield passing game is a joke: HE'S DEVELOPING! (possibly cancer, fwiw)

SenselessChiefsFan 10-29-2010 04:24 AM

Only 10 of the QB's above Cassel have a two to one TD to INT ratio over with passes over 10 yards.

Pioli Zombie 10-29-2010 04:35 AM

Comparing Brees and Cassel is like comparing DeNiro and Jimmy Fallon.

Extra Point 10-29-2010 04:37 AM

YAC

Hammock Parties 10-29-2010 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 7126938)
Only 10 of the QB's above Cassel have a two to one TD to INT ratio over with passes over 10 yards.

That's not really impressive when you consider how often he throws downfield, which isn't much.

ChiefGator 10-29-2010 04:53 AM

None of the top four quarterbacks on this list have a winning season.

Interesting, but meaningless stats.

And the difference between 50% and 40% downfield passing is what, one less long completion a game? What is defined as downfield anyway?

Hammock Parties 10-29-2010 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 7126945)
And the difference between 50% and 40% downfield passing is what, one less long completion a game?

One completion and we'd be 5-1.

Cassel is 22 for 55 over 10 yards.

Schaub (54%) is 31 for 57.

That's a difference of 9 completions and at Schaubs's YPC of 21.67 over 10 yards, a difference of 195 yards, or 32.5 yards per game.

Add 32.5 yards per game to Cassel's per game average and the Chiefs would be 19th in the league in passing instead of 30th.

Marcellus 10-29-2010 05:27 AM

LMAO

As soon as you can show me a correlation between down field passing and winning this will mean something.

We already argued this in another thread. The correlation does not exist.

It's just a straw man argument that was built to have something to bitch about regarding Cassel.

Hammock Parties 10-29-2010 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7126961)
As soon as you can show me a correlation between down field passing and winning this will mean something.

Favre, Manning and Brees were all in Conference Championship games last year.

Brees - 57%
Manning - 51.5%
Favre - 48%

Who won the AFC West?

Phillip Rivers. 49.7%

Who had the four best records in the league?

Indianapolis
New Orleans
San Diego
Minnesota

Now let's take a look at the other division winners and their quarterbacks.

Dallas - Romo - 49.4%
New England - Brady - 46%
Cincinnati - Palmer - 47.5 %
Arizona - Warner - 56 %

Must be a coincidence.

Chiefs=Champions 10-29-2010 05:58 AM

boom

Reerun_KC 10-29-2010 06:14 AM

Someone needs to ask Weis and Haley why? Instead of passing off speculation as fact GoChiefs...

Marcellus 10-29-2010 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7126968)
Favre, Manning and Brees were all in Conference Championship games last year.

Brees - 57%
Manning - 51.5%
Favre - 48%

Who won the AFC West?

Phillip Rivers. 49.7%

Who had the four best records in the league?

Indianapolis
New Orleans
San Diego
Minnesota

Now let's take a look at the other division winners and their quarterbacks.

Dallas - Romo - 49.4%
New England - Brady - 46%
Cincinnati - Palmer - 47.5 %
Arizona - Warner - 56 %

Must be a coincidence.

Weak sauce. Lets look at the % at the end of the year since we are using complete year statistics. What's Cassel's % the last 4 games?

Chiefnj2 10-29-2010 07:20 AM

I'm sure that as soon as Polian sees this he'll arrange an off season trade of Manning for Fitzpatrick or Henne.

milkman 10-29-2010 07:26 AM

I've said it before.
I'll say it again.

Stats mean jack.

Right now, my team has a QB who I have no confidence in his ability making plays when plays need to be made.

I had more confidence in Bono, in GrBac, in Thigpen.

Earthling 10-29-2010 07:39 AM

One mans dump is another mans Cassel.


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