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BigMeatballDave 02-14-2011 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7428834)
i don't know why

in what other business do the employees get 60% of the profits?

the fans gain nothing by the players making more money but have a chance to gain something by the owners having more free cash. Especially in smaller markets like Kansas City.
The players are the product. They deserve half.

Rausch 02-14-2011 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 7428849)
I just don't see how the players can sit out a year. They stand to lose to much income that they'll never get back.
The Players have legit gripes but no leverage.

They are ****ed.

The faster a deal is inked the less they'll get ****ed.

Their best bet is to ink a short 3-5 year deal where they get about 25% of what they want, give up the inevitable ground in the short term (while they look for better representation,) and add some type of poison pill in the long term if a CBA isn't extended...

Rausch 02-14-2011 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7428875)
The players are the product. They deserve half.
NEVER happen...

Reerun_KC 02-14-2011 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7428684)
Um, we will get along just fine without football.

The PLAYERS will certainly suffer. They obviously have a high opinion of themselves.
I gotta agree with you here...

There will be college football on Saturdays and hell they might even play some on Sundays if there is a lock out...

We wont suffer... Actually NFL fans might enjoy having the money they have to spend to attend these games.

Rausch 02-14-2011 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7428880)
I gotta agree with you here...

There will be college football on Saturdays and hell they might even play some on Sundays if there is a lock out...

We wont suffer... Actually NFL fans might enjoy having the money they have to spend to attend these games.
Is there anything to prevent the scab players from filling in?...

Brock 02-14-2011 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7428887)
Is there anything to prevent the scab players from filling in?...
Yes. It isn't a strike.

Rausch 02-14-2011 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7428890)
Yes. It isn't a strike.
There's no law stopping entertainment in an empty stadium.

Brock 02-14-2011 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7428893)
There's no law stopping entertainment in an empty stadium.
?

Rausch 02-14-2011 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7428896)
?
Ok, the Hunts hire a team called the KC Champs to go play.

The game, rules, and everything else is the same. Scab players and refs, but that $3it will still be on TV before the networks just give up all that money for nothing.

Most would watch just to see the bloody mess (see also: XFL) that would follow...

philfree 02-14-2011 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 7428875)
The players are the product. They deserve half.
I think the players are only part of the product. What about the huge high tech stadiums the players get to play in? They're a major part of the product too. The NFL is more than just the players. Heck at this point the fans are even part of the show. From Super Fans to who has got the loudest stadium and the most rabid fans. It's all part of the show.


PhilFree:arrow:

Brock 02-14-2011 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7428901)
Ok, the Hunts hire a team called the KC Champs to go play.

The game, rules, and everything else is the same. Scab players and refs, but that $3it will still be on TV before the networks just give up all that money for nothing.

Most would watch just to see the bloody mess (see also: XFL) that would follow...
Nobody watched the XFL. Nobody is watching the UFL.

Rausch 02-14-2011 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7428907)
Nobody watched the XFL.
The first two weeks people did.

Then they soured on the fact the commentary was by WWF/WWE morons instead of capable sportscasters and it all fell apart before the level of talent even came into play.

Idea = good.

Presentation = VERY bad.

Brock 02-14-2011 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7428913)
The first two weeks people did.

Then they soured on the fact the commentary was by WWF/WWE morons instead of capable sportscasters and it all fell apart before the level of talent even came into play.

Idea = good.

Presentation = VERY bad.
So for a week or two, out of morbid curiosity, some people watched it. Then they didn't.

No football is better than shitty football.

Garcia Bronco 02-14-2011 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7428583)
The owners are banking on the fact the fans will turn on the players if a lockout occurs. That can be the only reason for their brazen attitude towards the players.

I'm firmly pulling for the players with this one.
I don't care, but the players have almost zero leverage. If you want to move something or someone...you need leverage.

Dave Lane 02-14-2011 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7428877)
NEVER happen...
They get 60% now.


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