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milkman 09-24-2011 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7936544)
People easily forget. Others, like myself can't forget.


Evaluate Herm ****ing Edwards. Pioli's first FAIL.

That was Hunt's "fail".

I wasn't on the Pioli bandwagon at the time, but I do believe that he would have fired Herman ****ing Edwards as soon as he walked in the door if not for Hunt's request.

notorious 09-24-2011 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7936583)
That was Hunt's "fail".

I wasn't on the Pioli bandwagon at the time, but I do believe that he would have fired Herman ****ing Edwards as soon as he walked in the door if not for Hunt's request.

Was it?

If Clark needed to evaluate Herm as a head coach, this entire organization is ****ed. We can't fire the owner.......

milkman 09-24-2011 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7936589)
Was it?

If Clark needed to evaluate Herm as a head coach, this entire organization is ****ed. We can't fire the owner.......

Hunt felt a sense of loyalty and obligation to Herman ****ing Edwards, because he agreed the youth movement that Herman ****ing Edwards talked him onto.

He wanted to give him a (more than) fair chance.

BossChief 09-24-2011 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7936521)
I don't think Pendergast was Haley's choice.

Because Clark Hunt asked Pioli to take some time with Herman ****ing Edwards and give him a fair evaluation before making the decision to fire him, the Chiefs entered the offseason hiring process far later than every other team that were making changes, including the HC hire.

By the time they started to assemble a staff, the pickings were pretty slim, and they were forced to settle for stop gaps like Pendergast.

I mentioned this last night, but Clancy wasnt even hired as the DC.

He was hired as a "defensive assistant" and we were in contact with Romeo at the time and another coordinator that never ended up being named.

It was only after the other options didn't take the job that Clancy was named the DC.

I think Clancy was brought along by Haley, but was never intended to be the actual DC.

If Romeo doesnt tweak his scheme a little to allow us to at least try to get more pressure, he will absolutely paint himself in the same light as G-Rob.

NOBODY could have watched the last two games and thought the defense was being coordinated by a good DC...all I could see was G-Rob.

Houston
Hali
Sheffield
Gilberry
Belcher
DJ

all are good pass rushers that would thrive in a pressure scheme.

Hey Milk, remember all our talks about Wade Phillips and Dorsey as a 1 gap nose...I think this defense would be dominant with that style in place right now with these players.

What do you think?

Saccopoo 09-24-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7936620)
Hey Milk, remember all our talks about Wade Phillips and Dorsey as a 1 gap nose...I think this defense would be dominant with that style in place right now with these players.

What do you think?

I seriously doubt it.

I'm beginning to believe that Dorsey would struggle in any system. He's getting washed out more often than not and can't hold up against the point of attack even in one on one situations.

He's quick enough that he makes plays from behind sometimes and on hard slants, but he's getting killed on plays run right at him.

As much as everyone around here thought that we killed it on draft day in 2008, those two first rounders haven't panned out like the majority hoped they would.

milkman 09-24-2011 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7936639)
I seriously doubt it.

I'm beginning to believe that Dorsey would struggle in any system. He's getting washed out more often than not and can't hold up against the point of attack even in one on one situations.

He's quick enough that he makes plays from behind sometimes and on hard slants, but he's getting killed on plays run right at him.

As much as everyone around here thought that we killed it on draft day in 2008, those two first rounders haven't panned out like the majority hoped they would.

No disrespect intended, but you've proven over and over again that you wouldn't recognize line play, good or bad, if your dumb ass got run over by it.

Ace Gunner 09-24-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7936639)
I seriously doubt it.

I'm beginning to believe that Dorsey would struggle in any system. He's getting washed out more often than not and can't hold up against the point of attack even in one on one situations.

He's quick enough that he makes plays from behind sometimes and on hard slants, but he's getting killed on plays run right at him.

As much as everyone around here thought that we killed it on draft day in 2008, those two first rounders haven't panned out like the majority hoped they would.

oh gawd dude. you're in trouble now. the dorsey police are coming for you.

Saccopoo 09-24-2011 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7936643)
No disrespect intended, but you've proven over and over again that you wouldn't recognize line play, good or bad, if your dumb ass got run over by it.

:shrug:

It's pretty easy to spot substandard to mediocre play when it's happening every game for the past three plus years. I don't know if Dorsey is your boy or not, but the guy just doesn't have it. He's getting/gets steamrolled a lot and has zero upfield push against even marginal offensive line talent. The guy sucks. We're getting killed in the run and he's a big reason why.

All I know is that we've spent two top five picks on defensive line players in the past four drafts and both should be considered busts as it relates to their draft position versus performance on the field.

And everyone around here should be praying to whatever deity they deem omnipotent that the Chiefs don't win a game this season and get the #1 overall pick to take Luck because it's a strong possibility that the Chiefs are forced to yet again take a defensive line prospect high in the draft.

Saccopoo 09-24-2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 7936646)
oh gawd dude. you're in trouble now. the dorsey police are coming for you.

Oh, I figured that they would. The guy is defended on this board like nobody else. Why I don't know, but he is damn near untouchable in terms of criticism around here.

ClevelandBronco 09-24-2011 12:10 PM

Best case scenario for every other team in the league is that Crennel stays on with Kansas City.

The Chiefs defense will never do shit with his worthless ass in charge, and no other team will have to pretend to interview the idiot for vacant positions.

Ace Gunner 09-24-2011 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7936648)
Oh, I figured that they would. The guy is defended on this board like nobody else. Why I don't know, but he is damn near untouchable in terms of criticism around here.

he's cute. to them. but before we are banned, here's a clip of a goal line stand in which Dorsey the magnificent is supposed to cut the legs of LT Bell so the LB - Scheffield can stand up the rusher. Dorsey can't even do that. After 3 plus seasons, you'd think he could at least do that;

http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-cit...st-1-yd-run-TD

milkman 09-24-2011 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7936647)
:shrug:

It's pretty easy to spot substandard to mediocre play when it's happening every game for the past three plus years. I don't know if Dorsey is your boy or not, but the guy just doesn't have it. He's getting/gets steamrolled a lot and has zero upfield push against even marginal offensive line talent. The guy sucks. We're getting killed in the run and he's a big reason why.

All I know is that we've spent two top five picks on defensive line players in the past four drafts and both should be considered busts as it relates to their draft position versus performance on the field.

And everyone around here should be praying to whatever deity they deem omnipotent that the Chiefs don't win a game this season and get the #1 overall pick to take Luck because it's a strong possibility that the Chiefs are forced to yet again take a defensive line prospect high in the draft.

I'm not defending Dorsey.

I am simply telling you that your observations over the last 3 or 4 years around here have proven your idiocy.

notorious 09-24-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 7936652)
Best case scenario for every other team in the league is that Crennel stays on with Kansas City.

The Chiefs defense will never do shit with his worthless ass in charge, and no other team will have to pretend to interview the idiot for vacant positions.

Thanks for your honesty. I agree.

bevischief 09-24-2011 12:35 PM

We have heard this before...

BigMeatballDave 09-24-2011 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 7936639)
I seriously doubt it.

I'm beginning to believe that Dorsey would struggle in any system. He's getting washed out more often than not and can't hold up against the point of attack even in one on one situations.

He's quick enough that he makes plays from behind sometimes and on hard slants, but he's getting killed on plays run right at him.

As much as everyone around here thought that we killed it on draft day in 2008, those two first rounders haven't panned out like the majority hoped they would.

LMAO You are a moron. Dorsey is very good at what he does.


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