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Bewbies 10-02-2011 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7963418)
Haley, IMO, is a better coach than Cassel is a QB.

Rosie O'Donnel is a better hot woman than Matt Cassel is as a QB.

Frankie 10-02-2011 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 7963464)
Rosie O'Donnel is a better hot woman than Matt Cassel is as a QB.

You got a point there. But I still think Haley is potentially a very good NFL HC. Hate to see FO politics sweep the rug from under him.

Hammock Parties 10-02-2011 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 7963391)
That's not true. The play starts out like it's going to be a screen to McCluster, as he and a lineman peel off to the right. Then the McClain screen sets up to the left.

If Cassel had looked back to McCluster, he was open in the flat with two guys (the lineman who went with him and the WR on that side) to block for him.

Instead, Cassel flashed back to his INT last week and shit his pants.

Sweet! Can't wait to gif this failsauce up.

FAX 10-03-2011 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 7963391)
That's not true. The play starts out like it's going to be a screen to McCluster, as he and a lineman peel off to the right. Then the McClain screen sets up to the left.

If Cassel had looked back to McCluster, he was open in the flat with two guys (the lineman who went with him and the WR on that side) to block for him.

Instead, Cassel flashed back to his INT last week and shit his pants.

Hmmm.

I missed almost the entire game (back from errands with about 8 minutes remaining in the 3rd) and didn't see this play.

If this is what happened, I'd really like to see a gif thing of the play. So far, people have talked about Haley being angry because Cassel didn't run ... not that he had another option he didn't take ... or see.

FAX

FAX 10-03-2011 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 7963391)
That's not true. The play starts out like it's going to be a screen to McCluster, as he and a lineman peel off to the right. Then the McClain screen sets up to the left.

If Cassel had looked back to McCluster, he was open in the flat with two guys (the lineman who went with him and the WR on that side) to block for him.

Instead, Cassel flashed back to his INT last week and shit his pants.

Just saw the play on NFL.com. You're right, Mr. BigRock.

Wow.

FAX

BigMeatballDave 10-03-2011 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 7963507)
Hmmm.

I missed almost the entire game (back from errands with about 8 minutes remaining in the 3rd) and didn't see this play.

If this is what happened, I'd really like to see a gif thing of the play. So far, people have talked about Haley being angry because Cassel didn't run ... not that he had another option he didn't take ... or see.

FAX

Click on Cassel argues with Haley.

Right after the snap, Cassel glances at Dex, then proceeds to shit himself.

At the bottom of the screen, you can see Dex just standing alone, open.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201110...vikings@chiefs

booger 10-03-2011 01:14 AM

Cassel was anticipating getting his ass chewed from the time he turned and ran off the field after that spike. Watch Haley and it doesn't even seem that he is going into full on ass chew mode. Just mad enough to let him know he's pissed but still patient and was asking him a "what did you see?" type question QB's always get asked when it is a problem with the way the play turned out.

Matt just threw a fit like a little bitch. I can't read lips well but it looked like somewhere in there Haley mentioned him being some sort of a bitch. It was a tantrum. Casshat was angry about the fan's boos, the media that is so mean to him and that the defense and special teams players call him Zach Morris. Then Haley was like ok i've been waiting for this, come at me bro and cursed at him right back although much more under control than Cassel.

I guess give him credit he came back and played like he did and made some plays that lead to a win. It to me anyway, just sums it up to a QB who is a high maintenance, emotionally and mentally weak, entitled to respect he thinks should be shown to him, thin skinned, used to being coddled son of a bitch. Major pain in the ass and elephant in the room that everyone is aware of except himself.

The fact that it happened and will get talked about is a good thing. It will probably stick around longer than it should. He reminds me of Greg Robinson in the way he is so uncapable of taking criticism. I try to keep up with Haley's q/a's during the week even though he doesn't say much while talking for 15-20 minutes. I can't stomach listening to the QB but i usually do anyway and he sits there answering questions like a robot and is a very sensitive pansy when even the slightest hint of a tough question is in the air.

They will play much tougher D's this season and he will crack again under the pressure of it all. He always does. He will eventually lose the respect of his teamates for making the same mistakes over and over or the 3 and outs will pile up and the finger will finally be pointed at Matt for the way that they have to play offense.

Round 1 turned out to work out well but hopefully next time Haley benches his ass.

Hammock Parties 10-03-2011 01:26 AM

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It to me anyway, just sums it up to a QB who is a high maintenance, emotionally and mentally weak, entitled to respect he thinks should be shown to him, thin skinned, used to being coddled son of a bitch. Major pain in the ass and elephant in the room that everyone is aware of except himself.
Cassel has always been like this, and no even realizes it.

That's why he can arrogantly say he graded out perfectly after throwing 4 picks, and tell the fans to shut the **** up.

He is a california sun-baked golden boy who thinks he's the bees knees.

booger 10-03-2011 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7963557)
Cassel has always been like this, and no even realizes it.

That's why he can arrogantly say he graded out perfectly after throwing 4 picks, and tell the fans to shut the **** up.

He is a california sun-baked golden boy who thinks he's the bees knees.

Yep, he's a damn punk. I'm sure he's rubbed many of his teamates and other's around the team the wrong way. Weis, with his fix the QB mission, also said he's way to hard on himself and he needed to get past that. Weis also said that KC is a city that is very hard on their QB's and he was going to try to do some things to help them like him. Soon enough even Pioli will realize he's just not worth the trouble for a guy who is a backup at best. He never had to deal with stress and all that goes with being the starter in College. It's not that hard to fathom he will shit the bed in that regard in the big leagues. He's just keeping the seat warm.

BigRock 10-03-2011 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7963557)
He is a california sun-baked golden boy who thinks he's the bees knees.

AIN'T NOTHIN' GONNA BREAK HIS STRIDE
NOBODY'S GONNA SLOW HIM DOWN
OH NO
HE'S GOT TO KEEP ON MOVIN'

Hammock Parties 10-03-2011 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 7963562)
AIN'T NOTHIN' GONNA BREAK HIS STRIDE

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booger 10-03-2011 01:47 AM

McClain. Part of me wishes he would have backed off, let Matty get in Todd's face, and for Todd to lose it and puncture Matt's jugular with his pen. I like Todd and hope he makes it through but if he where to make a sacrifice like that for the fans...I would make sure to write him in prison.

The realistic part of me likes the way McClain stepped in and showed some leadership. He cares, you can tell that. He's under contract for a year, not getting as many carries as he could considering Charles injury and he's bought in to Haley's way of things and is part of the team. He could just go through the motions until the season is over and hope to better himself in free agency at his next stop. His twitter comments about them turning it around and being 5-3 at the half way point is comical. But it fits the us versus the world attitude it will take for this team to have any positive games this season. It's good to see another youngster with that type of attitude. On his own without any script or anything like it was drawn up by the team. Can always use more of that especially on offense.

58kcfan89 10-03-2011 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by booger (Post 7963569)
McClain. Part of me wishes he would have backed off, let Matty get in Todd's face, and for Todd to lose it and puncture Matt's jugular with his pen. I like Todd and hope he makes it through but if he where to make a sacrifice like that for the fans...I would make sure to write him in prison.

The realistic part of me likes the way McClain stepped in and showed some leadership. He cares, you can tell that. He's under contract for a year, not getting as many carries as he could considering Charles injury and he's bought in to Haley's way of things and is part of the team. He could just go through the motions until the season is over and hope to better himself in free agency at his next stop. His twitter comments about them turning it around and being 5-3 at the half way point is comical. But it fits the us versus the world attitude it will take for this team to have any positive games this season. It's good to see another youngster with that type of attitude. On his own without any script or anything like it was drawn up by the team. Can always use more of that especially on offense.

Would love to see McClain back next year, blocking for a (hopefully) 100% Jamaal and a new QB handing the ball off. Seeing as how we haven't had a good FB since T-Rich, it'd be nice to keep McClain around for awhile IMO.

booger 10-03-2011 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 58kcfan89 (Post 7963575)
Would love to see McClain back next year, blocking for a (hopefully) 100% Jamaal and a new QB handing the ball off. Seeing as how we haven't had a good FB since T-Rich, it'd be nice to keep McClain around for awhile IMO.

Me too. He should get some of Jones's carries in the one back sets this season too.

movinbones 10-03-2011 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by booger (Post 7963569)
The realistic part of me likes the way McClain stepped in and showed some leadership. He cares, you can tell that. He's under contract for a year, not getting as many carries as he could considering Charles injury and he's bought in to Haley's way of things and is part of the team. He could just go through the motions until the season is over and hope to better himself in free agency at his next stop. His twitter comments about them turning it around and being 5-3 at the half way point is comical. But it fits the us versus the world attitude it will take for this team to have any positive games this season. It's good to see another youngster with that type of attitude. On his own without any script or anything like it was drawn up by the team. Can always use more of that especially on offense.


This dude wants to win... he was so fired up at the end of the game. On the last series of the game he was 4-5 yards down the field fist pumping and trying to get the crowd fired up!!! Loved the passion when he could of just packed it in.


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