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the Talking Can 10-03-2011 11:18 AM

hali is more disruptive than ware

TEX 10-03-2011 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 7964009)
Sooo...he'll never get the credit he deserves?

Good point. Bad thing is, it was set up for that to happen this year coming off a division championship and with all the PT games...:banghead:

Pasta Little Brioni 10-03-2011 11:22 AM

He's been one of my faves since he came into the league. He led the league in pressures by a mile last year and the AFC in sacks, so it's not a stretch to say he's the best right now at getting after the QB. I haven't seen a pass rusher this year beat his man as consistently as Tamba does.

Buckweath 10-03-2011 11:24 AM

Hali is one of the best at passrushing but he's average at best at everything else. That still makes him one one the top 3-4 OLB but not top 5.

That tackle he missed against Buffalo was dreadful, I would never expect an elite OLB to miss that bad.

Flowers is still the Chiefs best defensive player.

the Talking Can 10-03-2011 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 7964107)
Hali is one of the best at passrushing but he's average at best at everything else. That still makes him one one the top 3-4 OLB but not top 5.

That tackle he missed against Buffalo was dreadful, I would never expect an elite OLB to miss that bad.

Flowers is still the Chiefs best defensive player.


quality, folks

Chris Meck 10-03-2011 11:27 AM

Allen is a one trick pony. He rushes the passer and that's it. He's a liability in every other facet of the game. He's Gilberry, only not as good against the run.


I think Allen is the most OVERrated DE in football. He does NOT make a defense better.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-03-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 7964107)
Hali is one of the best at passrushing but he's average at best at everything else. That still makes him one one the top 3-4 OLB but not top 5.

That tackle he missed against Buffalo was dreadful, I would never expect an elite OLB to miss that bad.

Flowers is still the Chiefs best defensive player.

You suck at watching football.

SAUTO 10-03-2011 11:28 AM

Ware a future hofer at this point?
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TheGuardian 10-03-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 7964118)
Ware a future hofer at this point?
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If his career ended today? No. He needs many many more years to be considered HoF worthy.

TheGuardian 10-03-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 7964115)
Allen is a one trick pony. He rushes the passer and that's it. He's a liability in every other facet of the game. He's Gilberry, only not as good against the run.


I think Allen is the most OVERrated DE in football. He does NOT make a defense better.

All this. Allen is a garbage time sack collector that isn't clutch or very good against the run. He's actually quite the liability most of the time. Not to mention he's an idiot in every sense of the word.

SAUTO 10-03-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7964119)
If his career ended today? No. He needs many many more years to be considered HoF worthy.

My opinion also.
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Pasta Little Brioni 10-03-2011 11:32 AM

He's also not bad for a "maxed out" "3rd end" ;)

Okie_Apparition 10-03-2011 11:37 AM

A replica bloody Tamba jersey should've been a goldmine

FAX 10-03-2011 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 7964107)
Hali is one of the best at passrushing but he's average at best at everything else. That still makes him one one the top 3-4 OLB but not top 5.

That tackle he missed against Buffalo was dreadful, I would never expect an elite OLB to miss that bad.

Flowers is still the Chiefs best defensive player.

I'm just a caveman. I fell on some ice and was later thawed out by some of your scientists. Your world frightens and confuses me. Sometimes the honking horns of your traffic make me want to get out of my BMW and run off into the hills, or wherever. Sometimes when I get a text message on my phone, I wonder: "Did little demons get inside and type it?" I don't know! My primitive mind can't grasp these concepts.

I also don't get the idea the people can judge the performance of a player like Hali in these terms. How is it possible that a fan can know what responsibilities an OLB has on any given play? Is he supposed to cover? If so, who? Is he supposed to play the run gap? If so, which one? Is he supposed to rush the passer? Is it supposed to be a stunt? Take the outside angle? Freelance based on the tackle's first move?

All I know is that Hali has no quit in him, apparently. That, and he stayed home on a reverse to his side yesterday when everybody else was sucking on Erick Hicks lozenges.

He's handled the move to OLB pretty darn well, in my view ... probably as well as anyone could under the circumstances. Therefore, I hereby award Tamba Hali the Big Gbanga Award in recognition of his patented quarterback smash move.

FAX

stevieray 10-03-2011 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7964093)
Hali never takes a snap off....never...

i can't believe how good he's become...you only wish more players had that kind of almost sick drive to perform...

got paid and didn't change

all this.


..when he was drafted, that was why..he was humble, hard worker and had an unbelievable motor...just never stops pursuing the ball....his hand work is just awesome... the second the olinemen's hands come up, he's knocking them away...remember that vid of him training?

...we're damn fortunate to have him.


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