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OnTheWarpath15 11-07-2011 06:09 PM

LOL at people who think the Colts are losing on purpose.

whoman69 11-07-2011 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8090116)
I can't believe how many people favor a system that rewards failure and punishes success.

If its anything like the NBA lottery, its pretty much the same teams in there every year. The Colts do seem to have more than their share of #1 picks as this would be the fifth time, if memory serves. Not even the Bucs can match that.

The problem with the NBA is that most years there are no real star players at the top that can turn a franchise around. They only have two rounds of players to choose from. Since the teams are so small, its more of a star driven league.

The problem with the NFL is that teams do not surround their star talent with talented players. The game is won in the trenches.

Backwards Masking 11-07-2011 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8090160)
LOL at people who think the Colts are losing on purpose.

LOL at people who acknowledge Caldwell still has a job and think they aren't.

Bump 11-07-2011 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8090160)
LOL at people who think the Colts are losing on purpose.

LOL at you, for not thinking they are.

kcxiv 11-07-2011 06:13 PM

Not just from this year, but they should like the NBA lottery. That imo is a perfect system.

the shittiest team more then likely gets the first pick, but its not 100 percent.

OnTheWarpath15 11-07-2011 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 8090169)
LOL at people who acknowledge Caldwell still has a job and think they aren't.

So Caldwell should be fired because the Colts front office hasn't built a more balanced team around Peyton Manning?

Caldwell's to blame for Manning missing the season?

I'm no fan of Caldwell's, but this guy was ****ed the minute Peyton went under the knife. This team sucks without him, they don't need to lose on purpose - they are just that bad.

Hootie 11-07-2011 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8088744)
Anybody else think the NBA lottery is rigged?

Yes.

Chicago got Derrick Rose.

The NBA needs Chicago to be good and to have a superstar.

Wala! Hometown boy...1.7% chance at #1...

yeah, it's rigged

Backwards Masking 11-07-2011 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8090179)
So Caldwell should be fired because the Colts front office hasn't built a more balanced team around Peyton Manning?

Caldwell's to blame for Manning missing the season?

I'm no fan of Caldwell's, but this guy was ****ed the minute Peyton went under the knife. This team sucks without him, they don't need to lose on purpose - they are just that bad.

Manning not worth 12 wins by himself...not even 8.

4 definitely, maybe even 6-7.

no way any one player is that good.

this season will not only net the Colts Luck, it will make Manning look like the greatest QB of all time, even though he isn't even the best QB of his generation (that's Tom Brady).

OnTheWarpath15 11-07-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 8090187)
Manning not worth 12 wins by himself...not even 8.

4 definitely, maybe even 6-7.

no way any one player is that good.


this season will not only net the Colts Luck, it will make Manning look like the greatest QB of all time, even though he isn't even the best QB of his generation (that's Tom Brady).
2. Caldw

OK.

LMAO

Hope you have a chin strap for your tinfoil hat, the rest of this season is going to be a bumpy ride.

The Franchise 11-07-2011 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Backwards Masking (Post 8090169)
LOL at people who acknowledge Caldwell still has a job and think they aren't.

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8090173)
LOL at you, for not thinking they are.

LOL at both of you for thinking that an entire organization has gotten together and determined that they would tank the season for a shot at an unproven QB.

If that actually happened....you would have players demanding trades. Shit...you would have players demanding to be released.

notorious 11-07-2011 06:25 PM

It looks to me that Manning is worth 10 wins.

Miakasa 11-07-2011 06:26 PM

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chiefzilla1501 11-07-2011 06:34 PM

In fairness, the question shouldn't be if Peyton Manning is better than some third string backup. The question is, if you put an average QB like Matt Cassel or Kevin Kolb on the Colts, how many games would they win? I think the Colts are probably good enough that those guys could probably squeeze 5-6 wins. So Peyton's important, but saying he's 10 wins better than the average QB is off.

Because it doesn't matter what team you put Curtis Painter on. On most teams, he's losing at least 10 games. He's that bad.

Mr. Laz 11-07-2011 08:25 PM

lottery is stupid but necessary

Top 5 teams in draft order should draw for it in a weighted lottery. Only way to keep teams from "sucking for xxxxx"

no need to televise that stupid shit though

58kcfan89 11-07-2011 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8090206)
It looks to me that Manning is worth 10 wins.

I was reading Ron Jaworski's book ("Games That Changed the Game") about a week ago and he mentioned a time when he was in Indy watching the Colts practice. Jaws asked Tom Moore why the backup QBs didn't get any reps in practice and what they would do if Manning went down.

"Fellas, if '18' goes down, we're ****ed. And we don't practice ****ed."


As for the lottery idea, I don't like the idea of it (although I hate that the dumbshit Irsay won't keep his trap shut about Luck), but if the NFL thinks they could make money & get good ratings off of making a lottery a yearly televised event (they would), I can easily see them doing it. I definitely don't want them to, though. Seems like in the NBA, teams like the Minnesota Timberwolves are awful every year and never get the #1 pick because of the lotto. Not a fan.


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