Most GM's ultimately make the picks during the draft. How they get to the point of which players the team wants or needs is a collaborative effort. Who has ever said Haley doesn't get to draft the players he wants? You are weird.

I also don't believe that Pioli is FORCING Haley to play Cassel like some do. Just that Pioli brings in the talent, and the talent he has brought in up until this year to compete with Cassel was none. Now, Stanzi is a different story, but I probably wouldn't have just started him this year either...I say I would have, b/c he is head and shoulders above Cassel as a QB, but in all actuality, I'd rather coach him up first.

Something has to be done about the passing game. It's currently ranked #27 and has never been ranked highly the whole time Haley and Cassel have been here. Cassel can't run Haley's downfield passing offense, and Pioli has to do something about it, preferable cutting Cassel loose.

You win in this league moving the ball in the air.

Kiss of death anyone? I'm getting queasy thinking who the next retread Pioli will bring in.

Mark Brunell

Ricky Stanzi.

Mike Zimmer?

Bob Knight. He has lots of wins. Hopefully he can get us some.

In sorry, I thought I just read an article that had chiefs and Superbowl in the same sentence.

no, i'm not ... but this obsession with him is nuts.

Cassel isn't the reason we lost to the Dolphins.

our offensive coaching sucks azz and our defense bent over and took it up the butt.

The team still isn't polished and they still don't play with the intensity and passion of a good NFL team. You give us a real OC and we would be much,much better.

who's the bigger weakness on offense, Cassel or the coaching?

I say coaching because it effects everything ... Oline blocking, the Blitz pickups, the hot routes,the audibles, every part of the offense.

Offensive needs (by priority)
1. Coaching
2. QB
3. RT
4. center

but hey ... you guys keep bitching about Cassel, whatever floats your boat.

I don't think anyone is arguing that Cassel is the reason we lost to the Dolphins.

People are arguing that Cassel is a reason we lost to the Dolphins.

This "obsession" with him is because he's holding this team back. You could win championships with shitty QB play a decade ago if you had an all-world defense. That's not the case anymore. The NFL is a QB-driven, passing league.

Sadly, our organizational philosophy seems to be, "trade for/draft late round scrubs and hope like hell we find the next Tom Brady."

Yeah, I can't imagine why fans of this franchise are obsessed with the QB position.

One of the problems that we have is offensive playcalling. It's been the same with Haley at the helm. Last year it was good because we had JC. Without JC, we are back to the same horrible, predictable calls.

It's clear that Haley is running the offense whether we want to admit it or not. He's not willing to change it. That is a problem.

He's good with developing players. That. Is. It.

Managing games, adjusting strategies, two minute offense, etc are all horrible.

He has not had a true signature win since he came here. We either beat shitty teams or have people like Phillip Rivers give us games.

I am starting to believe that his success in AZ were due to Whisenhunt and Kurt.

absolutely he is ... but he played better than most of the team.

and yet people aren't talking about all those ****-ups they are still beating a dead horse about Cassel.

EVERYBODY here knows we need an upgrade at QB ... move the **** on.

every dam thread turns into something about Cassel, it's beyond stupid. You can't talk about anything else.

I thought it is Weisenhunts down the field offense not Haley's. Seems like we are seeing Haley's offense right now.

Aren't reading the defense, identifying your hot route, and calling audibles on the QB? I think so. Especially since you can't do any of the latter two things if you can't read a defense and guess what, Cassel can't. Never has been able to.

The only part of the offense that is subpar b/c of coaching IMO is the OL. I base that opinion on the fact that the OL still doesn't always know their responsibility and can't pick up a blitz for the life of them. This is their THIRD YEAR in this offense. They should figure it out already.

Other than that, the RB's are as good as they can be considering who's back there, the receivers are fine. The TE's are fine, again, considering who we have. O'Connell got beat in pass pro a lot on Sunday, but mostly b/c he was outsized considerably most of the time.

The defense was our biggest problem on Sunday, but mainly due to poor play by backups in the secondary. Other than that, the Phins OL was getting to the second level and took DJ out of the game and Tamba got ZERO pressure. He actually graded out negative on ProFootballFocus, which is the first I've seen for him.

This team DOES need an overhaul on the OL. Two guys need to be found and how you incorporate them, I don't care as long as it works. Other than that, just coach them up. Need a new RB or two, a TE and a WR, not to mention a QB. On defense, the secondary needs depth at safety and we need a couple guys in the linebacker corps, a OLB and an ILB.