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Hammock Parties 11-08-2011 07:37 PM

You have to prepare for different defenses in different ways.

We had two practices and a walkthrough on a short week. It's pretty clear to me we weren't prepared.

Hammock Parties 11-08-2011 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8093154)
Dude just pick a side and stay there. I can't handle this much head spinning trying to see which side of the fence you are on from week to week.

I'm not sure what you're talking about.

I have never ever sat here and said I was impressed with the job Haley was doing this year.

O.city 11-08-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8093158)
I'm not sure what you're talking about.

I have never ever sat here and said I was impressed with the job Haley was doing this year.

You just seem to be up and down on them from week to week. All I was implying.


It's just hard for me to get excited or upset when we lost three of our best players and we trot a qb like Matt Cassel out there every week.

Hammock Parties 11-08-2011 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8093167)
You just seem to be up and down on them from week to week. All I was implying.


It's just hard for me to get excited or upset when we lost three of our best players and we trot a qb like Matt Cassel out there every week.

You can get excited about the team winning, as I have been, and still believe they are a bunch of frauds. I have never once believed we were going anywhere with Haley and Cassel this year.

In fact a few weeks ago I plainly stated I was ready to enjoy another season of mediocrity. Because that's what I've been doing for 20 years.

And when we beast Tebow this week I'll have fun with it.

O.city 11-08-2011 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8093169)
You can get excited about the team winning, as I have been, and still believe they are a bunch of frauds. I have never once believed we were going anywhere with Haley and Cassel this year.

In fact a few weeks ago I plainly stated I was ready to enjoy another season of mediocrity. Because that's what I've been doing for 20 years.

And when we beast Tebow this week I'll have fun with it.

This is kinda how I feel. I am higher on Haley than you are but Cassel not so much. I will enjoy wins and agonize over losses but, the injuries just really took it outa me this year.

O.city 11-08-2011 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8093169)
You can get excited about the team winning, as I have been, and still believe they are a bunch of frauds. I have never once believed we were going anywhere with Haley and Cassel this year.

In fact a few weeks ago I plainly stated I was ready to enjoy another season of mediocrity. Because that's what I've been doing for 20 years.

And when we beast Tebow this week I'll have fun with it.

Do you think the whole team is a fraud? I tend to think we are actually a few players away from competing.

Hammock Parties 11-08-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8093178)
Do you think the whole team is a fraud? I tend to think we are actually a few players away from competing.

We are a few players away from competing, yet routinely get blown out.

So we are a HC and a QB away from competing.

BossChief 11-08-2011 07:53 PM

Right now, we are 1 player away from competing.

Quarterback.

From being a legitimate superbowl favorite (as in a top 3 contender for the whole pie) I think we are probably 2 or 3, if they are the right players.

QB
RT
NT

The resto fo the pieces are there, they just need to develop IMO.

O.city 11-08-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8093179)
We are a few players away from competing, yet routinely get blown out.

So we are a HC and a QB away from competing.

So what are your thoughts on unloading picks to get one of the top qbs in this class like the Jets with Sanchez? Are we where they were the year before?

O.city 11-08-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8093181)
Right now, we are 1 player away from competing.

Quarterback.

From being a legitimate superbowl favorite (as in a top 3 contender for the whole pie) I think we are probably 2 or 3, if they are the right players.

QB
RT
NT

The resto fo the pieces are there, they just need to develop IMO.

This was sorta my thinking. It's actually encouraging that we are such a young football team.

Hammock Parties 11-08-2011 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8093181)
Right now, we are 1 player away from competing.

Quarterback.

From being a legitimate superbowl favorite (as in a top 3 contender for the whole pie) I think we are probably 2 or 3, if they are the right players.

QB
RT
NT

The resto fo the pieces are there, they just need to develop IMO.

This team desperately needs a complementary pass rusher more than it needs a RT or NT.

We are pretty close but in the end I think a new head coach is going to want to bring in his own players and install his own system and we will end up building up the roster again.

Haley is not winning jack here.

Hammock Parties 11-08-2011 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8093182)
So what are your thoughts on unloading picks to get one of the top qbs in this class like the Jets with Sanchez? Are we where they were the year before?

That's not happening, so why think about it?

Cassel is going to be the QB next year and will be bitching about the same things we have been bitching about since 2009.

Statistically he is on pace to have a nearly identical season.

BossChief 11-08-2011 07:59 PM

I still think that once Stanzi gets a chance, a lot on this team will change for the better.

There will be growing pains, but there are really only 3 quarterbacks out of this upcoming class that I think might be better than him.

Luck
Barkley
Foles

I really dont think Landry Jones is head and shoulders a better quarterback.

suzzer99 11-08-2011 08:00 PM

Tamba was too upset about JoePa. He'll bounce back this week.

O.city 11-08-2011 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8093188)
This team desperately needs a complementary pass rusher more than it needs a RT or NT.

We are pretty close but in the end I think a new head coach is going to want to bring in his own players and install his own system and we will end up building up the roster again.

Haley is not winning jack here.

I don't think Haley goes anywhere man. With the injuries to your best players and the qb situation it's gonna be tough to get rid of him. Until Sunday the players were playing extremely hard for him.


IMO and this might be wrong so flame away at me, but coaches take too much of the blame or reward when it comes to the NFL. In the end players play. How many times have we seen a wr running wide open down the seem or on a deep flag pattern only to be missed or overthrown. Coach can't make that play. He can however put someone else in who can. That's where my beef with this coaching staff comes from.


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