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O.city 11-09-2011 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096216)
Less than bad does not equal good.

Very true.

Smed1065 11-09-2011 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096216)
Less than bad does not equal good.

So U would do better?

lcarus 11-09-2011 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8096210)
If your scheme and lack of talent in key areas lead to your defense to giving up points, you're going to get blown out if you have a liability at QB and you can't respond with points of your own.

On top of that, when you have a bad QB and an offense that can't generate first downs, 3 and out after 3 and out will cause even good defenses to break sometimes.

Bugeater 11-09-2011 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8096101)
yeah, except Haley never hired him as his DC...he was hired as a defensive coach with a title to be named later.

He was only named the DC once Romeo turned Pioli down for the job in 2009 because he wasn't healthy enough.

...

I think its laughable how some here seem to get a stiffy from talking about the Chiefs losing games over the course of rebuilding years by a greater margin than back in the perennial 9-7/10-6 years.

FFS people...teams quarterbacked by Matt Cassel and missing 4 of its best players are gonna lose some ugly games.

What 4 players were we missing in the 2010 blowouts?

Hammock Parties 11-09-2011 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8096229)
What 4 players were we missing in the 2010 blowouts?

It doesn't matter. We were getting our asses kicked from the first snap this year with Berry on defense, and we were getting our asses kicked in Detroit before Charles got hurt.

milkman 11-09-2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8096229)
What 4 players were we missing in the 2010 blowouts?

Against Baltimore, I'd go with Dwayne Bowe.

milkman 11-09-2011 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096234)
It doesn't matter. We were getting our asses kicked from the first snap this year with Berry on defense, and we were getting our asses kicked in Detroit before Charles got hurt.

Really doesn't matter.

Unless you have the overall talent of the Ravens defense, or the Giants, teams are going to score points.

Look around the league.

Offenses are dominating.

If you can't score points, you're going to get your ass handed to you on occassion.

This isn't the old days when teams grabbed a lead, then protected it.

Bugeater 11-09-2011 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8096237)
Against Baltimore, I'd go with Dwayne Bowe.

Bowe is 4 players?

milkman 11-09-2011 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8096263)
Bowe is 4 players?

Just a name to toss out there among the missing.

58kcfan89 11-09-2011 10:22 PM

It's fair that the injuries hurt us this year, but, as has been addressed here numerous times, if Pioli had used some of that cap space to sign a couple serviceable DBs and built some depth through free agency, we wouldn't be using them as such a crutch. I'm not saying that we could get a S to replace Berry's production, but surely we can do better than Piscitelli.

As for the blowouts, it's not all Cassel's fault by any means, but he's just as much of a constant as Haley & Pioli. If it's not obvious that we need a better QB, well....

Frankly, I'm not very happy with any of the 3 between the GM, HC & QB. I'm still holding out hope that they can get this figured out, but my faith slips with every 31-3 loss.

O.city 11-09-2011 10:23 PM

Clay is just wanting attention tonight, more than other nights for some reason. Those three injuries crippled this team.


Honestly was very surprising to me that they won the four they did.

Hammock Parties 11-09-2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8096295)
Clay is just wanting attention tonight, more than other nights for some reason. Those three injuries crippled this team.

I've been thinking about this post all week.

Hammock Parties 11-09-2011 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 58kcfan89 (Post 8096287)
Frankly, I'm not very happy with any of the 3 between the GM, HC & QB. I'm still holding out hope that they can get this figured out, but my faith slips with every 31-3 loss.

Bingo.

How many does it take?

I suspect two more of these embarrassments and a lot of people are going to start looking for their pitchforks.

Bugeater 11-09-2011 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096325)
Bingo.

How many does it take?

I suspect two more of these embarrassments and a lot of people are going to start looking for their pitchforks.

Wait until we lose to Tebow...

Hammock Parties 11-09-2011 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8096329)
Wait until we lose to Tebow...

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